Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muhammad ibn Ja'far


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was keep. Johnleemk | Talk 15:39, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Muhammad ibn Ja'far
Non-notable → A z a  Toth 23:32, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. Although from this link it appears that he was "a companion" to the Prophet Muhammad, the article doesn't assert his notability, and I'm not sure how significant companions to the Prophet are. &mdash; Kimchi.sg | Talk 23:54, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's important to the national security of the U.S. of A. (Love it or leave it!) to have as much information as possible about Moslem historical figures.  The Danes got their asses handed to them for offending Islam.  We don't want to make the same mistake. Brian G. Crawford 00:04, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep notability standard for historical article is different to current topics - if theres still information on them after 1500 years than its notable -- Astrokey44 |talk 02:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Companions of the Prophet are inherently notable (see Sahaba); however, I can't find very good evidence through google that he was one. If he was, it's a definite keep.  If not, he may not be particularly notable, but I see his name in lists of hadith transmissions, so he does have some notability there, in which case I would downgrade my vote weak keep.  It'd be nice to know the details, but probably requires an Islamic library to which I do not have access.  bikeable (talk) 03:57, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Based on the genealogy provided, the man was a first cousin, once removed of Muhammad. His father Ja'far ibn Abu Talib was a son of Abu Talib ibn Abd al-Muttalib and a nephew of Abd-Allah ibn Abd-al-Muttalib. Abd-Allah ibn Abd-al-Muttalib was the father of Prophet Muhammad. Perhaps his familial connections should be clarified? User:Dimadick


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