Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muladonna


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. bainer (talk) 10:05, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Muladonna
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Unverifiable, non-notable, possibly fictional. Delete. Melchoir 11:12, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep. It is not fictional. Please have some patience while my family and I offer our support. We created the article because we are so few. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MagneticUnderlay (talk • contribs) 11:24, 16 December 2005
 * How long will it take you to find a reference? Melchoir 11:30, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Hopefully not long. Hang on, hey?. Not like were making big trouble. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MagneticUnderlay (talk • contribs) 11:35, 16 December 2005
 * It is very hard to find any references about this religion due to its recent formation and lack of acceptance by the wider (and uninformed) community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WholeFood (talk • contribs) 11:41, 16 December 2005
 * I Am a member of Muladonna, my Muladonna name is Kawasaki — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.238.82.192 (talk • contribs) 11:45, 16 December 2005
 * Delete unless references are found. Movementarian 11:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * references, where? If we are writing the article, how can we reference! give an example and i will try to fulfil! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MagneticUnderlay (talk • contribs) 11:52, 16 December 2005
 * Wikipedia is not a primary reference on anything. If this material has never been written down before, it belongs somewhere else. Melchoir 11:54, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * It has been written down, but not online. The article itself tells that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MagneticUnderlay (talk • contribs) 11:56, 16 December 2005
 * References must be accessible to be used as references. Melchoir 11:58, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * hello my name is arron, i am a member of Muladonna and i have been directed here to show my support for it's position in the online encyclopedia, we are very few but we are very humble. Getah! Hello my fellow men, my name is Joseph and I too am a member of Muladonna... it is not fiction... our numbers are growing by the day. Respect to my humble brothers. Getah! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.7.183.131 (talk • contribs) 11:56, 16 December 2005


 * Please keep it i have found it to be very informative. and i have heard of "Muladonna" before. -anon
 * " I heard aobut this the other day, cool." -anon
 * References must be accessible? Makes it hard.
 * We are referencing the unpublished works of Koldiber & Caradan.
 * What is this, some sort of test? Are you bored students? Melchoir 12:05, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete - If you're a Branch Davidian, that's one thing - but a church that is made up by a single family and its friends really doesn't belong on Wikipedia, instead you should consider getting your own website, even muladonna.com or something. Worth noting that Muladonna is the name of "the ultimate hero in the universe" in the manga comic series Ultra Maniac.  Also note that a string of edits appears to all be the same person, signing different names since 202.7.183.131 'Joseph' went back and edited 211.26.121.8 'Aaron's post, and the man formerly signing "Kawasaki" is now saying " I heard aobut this the other day, cool." pretending to be another internet user Sherurcij (talk) (bounties) 12:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Comment: The only reference I can find on Google points back to Wikipedia --> Ultra Maniac
 * "Muladonna is the ultimate hero of the universe in which the second rate drama is set. Muladonna takes the form of both male and female seemingly at will. Muladonna is also able to manipulate the world in any way and is the mortal enemy of The Dog Faced Woman." Jamie (talk/contribs) 12:06, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Bored students? Why the hell would we invent a religion then. We'd be out sassing adults and getting to third base. Kids aren't as stupid as you give them credit for! some people are just stupid, like arron. He's just trying to help. I heard about this in Barcelona, and decided to spread it over here, it's not only a family thing.

*Comment - would it be fair to point out that your "devout followers" seem to be messing up their 'bastardisation' of the Islamic Peace be upon him, sometimes inserting after the deity's name (as per Islam), and sometimes not remembering it until the end of a sentence, or paragraph? Sherurcij (talk) (bounties) 12:15, 16 December 2005 (UTC) (ANd please, type ~ after each of your posts, or they will simply be dismissed as the ramblings of the same person)


 * the page is being editied by myself and a friend, we are different in our opinions of the religion, so we sometimes have conflicts. If you would stop harrassing, we could probably work that out 12:19, 16 December 2005 (UTC)MagneticUnderlay


 * Hello, I am a member and i know much about it, now let me explain:You see i heard about this awhile ago in some magazine and naturaly thought it was a cult but it is a brilliant thing!! If it is not kept then it will be an atrocious abonination!***Yours truly HippyFool.*** -202.7.183.131
 * Which magazine would that be? Melchoir 12:18, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

"**Which magazine would that be?">>>***PC World***


 * I do not appreciate this persecution of a minority which is struggling to gain acceptance on a global level. Muladonna to Victory!!!WholeFood


 * hello it is arron again. i think you may be confused hippyfool, we have published advertisements in the local newsletter and sent out flyers but i am a subscriber to pc world and haven't seen our (or any for that matter) religions mentioned. If you are indeed interested in finding out more please visit us next wednesday at Ghestwerk Hall on Maya St.
 * You're "both" at 202.7.183.131. Coincidence? Melchoir 12:32, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Comment. Can we speedy this under complete bollocks or Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day?  Movementarian 12:31, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I tried speedying it, but there was resistance, so I thought, hey, let's have a proper AfD. How wrong I was. Melchoir 12:33, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

- School. Holidays began several weeks ago. That seems foolish. MagneticUnderlay 12:32, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * What is AfD? 12:37, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * This is. Melchoir 12:38, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * what does it stand for 12:41, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * "Articles for deletion" Melchoir 12:41, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you could file the webpage away somewhere, at the very least, until we get a page. Why are you so hostile. A religion can be embraced by thousands or millions or just few, it still exists! MagneticUnderlay 12:43, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * A reference could be procured, if you're willing to wait. I know a news site which would be willing to help once it gets up and running. 12:45, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Muladonna would be very displeased if he was informed of this disbelief about his existance.
 * I am trying not to be hostile, and I assure you that this has nothing to do with religion. See Verifiability and Reliable sources. You want the page filed away? Fine, I'll copy it to your user page. Melchoir 12:49, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Y'know, for a free, user-editable encyclopedia, you are very close minded. Why not allow it, even modifying it slightly to say it is not verified yet. MagneticUnderlay 12:51, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Yet? Judging from the behavior of its supporters, this article will never be verified. Wikipedia may be free, but it does not need to tolerate nonsense. Melchoir 12:55, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * True, and i'll admit that many of my comrades are a little silly about supporting. But as i said, i know of a site that will offer support once it exists properly, and i can request that many people begin a tributary on Myspace pages and the like. MagneticUnderlay 12:56, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * You didn't read Reliable sources, did you? Melchoir 12:59, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Besides! What right do you have to call this nonsense! Have you properly read the article? Some people may add foolishness, but you cannot dispute claims with no proof *EITHER WAY!* 12:58, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * The burden of proof is on you. Sorry. Melchoir 13:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Fair. However, If we were to commandeer Muladonna.com, would you deem that acceptable?13:01, 16 December 2005 (UTC)~
 * Of course not. Melchoir 13:04, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * THREE CHEERS FOR MULADONNA!!!WholeFood


 * I mean, how far will you go to disprove us! Does it offend you that we might want to be a part of your webring? Just because you made the news as easily defrauded! Even in Australia. You capitalists make me sick sometimes. Would i lose the bet that you are American or British?
 * I don't need to disprove anything. Melchoir 13:06, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

- I notice my racial prejudice was ignored. Don't want to answer. Am i right or wrong? MagneticUnderlay 13:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Probable hoax, certainly non-notable and unverifiable. Lord Bob 13:09, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Anyone that insults Muladonna will sometime tomorrow fall in a godam BEAR TRAP!!! yeah take that you hippy-hating, f00l abusing, muladonna atrocatising bastards!***HippyFool***

- Delete the page then, If you so desire. My comrades and I concede defeat. But while you're at it, do me a favor and delete my account here also. I have nothing else to say. And if ever i am able to offer you the proof you desire, then i shall return anew. But i do not want ties otherwise. My hat off to you Melchoir. I would like to talk sometime other than these circumstances, please look me up at darktrix666@hotmail.com. We may not have one, but the runaround was damn good. So damn good. I have nothing left to hide. Really, give me an IM. 13:15, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Not to be age-ist or anything, but alright, clearly at least one of you is 15 years old, and interestingly you have the exact same AIM, MSN and Yahoo messenger as Daniel who is also 15 Sherurcij (talk) (bounties) 13:31, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

- Yeah, I'm Daniel J. Carabellese. MagneticUnderlay 13:36, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

-MMMm. *Won, rather. I apologise; I'm tired 13:16, 16 December 2005 (UTC)~

-Rambo says: i dont think he will contact you [ - Cosmonaut Carabellese - ] says: Nor do I. But i respect him as a formidable opponant. -- C'mon, you must have had fun if you didn't just erase it on the spot. 13:19, 16 December 2005 (UTC)~

Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!


 * Delete Unverifiable. --W.marsh 15:16, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - nn and/or unverifiable - Wezzo 15:30, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete for any and all the reasons cited above. Plus the sockpuppetry. Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 15:36, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete possible speedy as the author allegedly has acknowledged its deletion. Capitalistroadster 16:49, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Certainly nn and Unverifiable and probably a hoax. Eusebeus 17:30, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete If you want to achieve notability for your religion, begin by getting a domain name and putting up a website. Write books and have them published by non-vanity presses.  Get attention in legitimate news sources (by doing community service work, etc.).  Wikipedia needs to see that a religion has a public presence.  Otherwise there's no way for the editors to distinguish between a genuine faith and the joking elevation of Jack Daniels to deity status in someone's Dungeons & Dragons campaign. Durova 19:18, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * delete and a tip of the hat to Melchoir for being patient instead of blocking J\/\/estbrook       20:53, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or rename 'Puppetology' Jasmol 02:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Ashibaka tock 03:04, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as all above --kingboyk 15:08, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete. I also recommend that all the meat puppets be served up as holiday meals for the needy, seeing as how there are so many roaming around in a great big herd. Perhaps deep-fried, like a turkey. Nezu Chiza 05:55, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Emphatically strong delete for the coveted 0 google hits (other than wikipedia and mirrors). Zordrac  (talk) Wishy Washy  Darwikinian Eventualist 14:21, 21 December 2005 (UTC)


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