Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Multilingualism in India


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Everybody agrees that this is a notable topic. The only question is whether it's sufficiently distinct from Languages of India as to require two separate articles, or if a single article can cover the topic adequately. I don't see any clear answer to that question, so for now, we'll keep both. Editors can continue to discuss this on the talk pages. Should a consensus develop that a single article is sufficient, a merge can be performed as a normal part of editorial discretion. -- RoySmith (talk) 05:17, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Multilingualism in India

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All the information in this article is in Languages of India, making this article unnecessarily redundant. JDDJS ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 21:37, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The topic is clearly notable, but the current article, with nothing but census data, doesn't quite do it justice. You could either keep the article as is, hoping someone will eventually expand it, or merge it into Languages of India. – Uanfala (talk) 22:22, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. – Uanfala (talk) 22:22, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. – Uanfala (talk) 22:22, 2 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep The topic is definitely notable, but this article is really only a stub, and does not cover any of the aspects of multilingualism in India which have been described in scholarly books and articles for decades, eg Multilingualism in India (Multilingual Matters, 1990) ; Managing Multilingualism in India: Political and Linguistic Manifestations (SAGE Publications, 2001) ; chapter 'Multilingualism in India' in Studies in Multilingualism (Brill, 1969) ; A Multilingual Nation: Translation and Language Dynamic in India (Oxford University Press, 2017) ; The Ecology of Language in Multilingual India: Voices of Women and Educators in the Himalayan Foothills (Springer, 2017) ; etc. I suggest tagging it for expert attention from the WikiProject Linguistics/Applied. I note that the topic has been rated Top Importance for the WikiProject India, and High Importance for WikiProject Languages. As it hasn't been added to any Linguistics WikiProjects, it hasn't been rated there, but I would think that it would be of High importance to WikiProject Linguistics/Applied, as one of the first countries where multilingualism was described in detail. RebeccaGreen (talk) 22:47, 2 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. As RebeccaGreen aptly points out, it's a notable and well-covered topic in its own right. There's room for expansion in the article beyond a table. Multilingualism for instance is a noted vehicle for social mobility in India, yet there is no mention of that in the article. On another note I think the pages current assessment rating of C-TOP is a bit fluffed; i'd be more conservative with Start-MID, and may change it after this AfD. Cesde v a  (talk) 11:55, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note If the article is expanded, even just a bit, to include information not included at Languages of India, I will gladly withdraw my nomination. However, until/unless that happens, I stick by my nomination as an unnecessary redundancy. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 12:51, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge to Languages of India, with no prejudice against re-splitting when more information is added. There appear to be only two sentences (about Hindi) in this article that are not already covered at Languages of India. The topic is certainly notable, but at present the page is unnecessary duplication. Cnilep (talk) 02:05, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Sans the presence of nuke-able stuff; the current state of the article shall not affect the outcome of an AfD. This is a highly notable topic and there exists hordes of sources about the part. locus. &#x222F; WBG converse 06:46, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't believe I'm familiar with any policy that says that you can't consider the current condition of an article during AFD. Regardless, notability has to be established, and the article currently does not establish it. While I believe that this could potentially become a useful article, in its current state, it does absolutely nothing to improve Wikipedia. I don't see the point of keeping a useless and redundant article in hopes that somebody will one day improve it. The article can always be restored if and when an editor decides to write a useful version. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 18:57, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * By your measure we should be deleting every stub on Wikipedia. Just because an article hasn't met its potential yet, doesn't mean you should delete it. That's very counterproductive. Also per point B2 of WP:BEFORE, "If there are verifiability, notability or other sourcing concerns, take reasonable steps to search for reliable sources." What that means is that instead of nominating for deletion, you should have found sources and added them. Cesde v a  (talk) 19:48, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Not every stub. Just the ones that are completely redundant. Why is it my responsibility to expand the article? You're the one arguing to keep it, so why don't you expand it? If it's expanded, even just a little, I'll gladly withdraw my nomination. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 16:43, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * , have you seen WP:IMPERFECT, which is a policy? &#x222F; WBG converse 17:17, 5 January 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.