Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murad Chunkaiev


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 21:45, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Murad Chunkaiev

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Article does not meet notability requirements established by WP:NMMA. Willdawg111 (talk) 05:44, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Delete: FAILS WP:NMMA. Willdawg111 (talk) 05:44, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete — Fails WP:NMMA.  Poison  Whiskey  15:17, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Subject does not meet WP:NMMA. --LlamaAl (talk) 15:13, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 03:13, 23 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2012 December 23.  Snotbot   t &bull; c &raquo;  03:38, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:17, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep I find 5 notable opponents and one notable event for a top tier, now defunct company, namely Pride. He meets WP:NMMA as the guideline stands right now. Mazter00 (talk) 13:56, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Where's the guideline for determining notable opponents. We have other fighters who are coming up a little short for notability based off of not having the top tier organzation fights who have notable oppoenent. If there is a guideline somewhere for this, please share so we can save some of these other fighters. Willdawg111 (talk) 14:19, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Its a bit of a catch-22 - a notable opponent has his own article.Peter Rehse (talk) 14:24, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was gonna be my answer. If an opponent isn't on Wikipedia, clearly that opponent wasn't notable enough to be on Wikipedia. However, if it's a bluelink (opponent), that must mean that that opponent is notable enough to have its own article. If that wasn't the case etc etc... In this case, the one event that has a bluelink (events), is Pride. Someone has concluded that Pride in it's haydays was a toptier company, and it says in the guideline WP:NMMA that 3 fights for a toptier is good enough. If we follow it to the letter, this AfD fails. Mazter00 (talk) 14:44, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Fighting a notable opponent does not make you notable - even if you win. Notability is not inherited.  Are you notable because you fought someone who later went on to be come notable or is that just a side note.  Fighting for a top tier organization a defined number of times is far easier to quantify.Peter Rehse (talk) 14:53, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Having an article on Wikipedia is not a guarantee of notability, and not having an article doesn't mean that a subject is not notable. That's why we keep creating articles that we should have and deleting articles that we shouldn't have. --Michig (talk) 09:49, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:NMMA. --TreyGeek (talk) 21:07, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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