Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murder ballad


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was KEEP Marskell 12:00, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Murder ballad
This afd nomination was incomplete. Listing now. No opinion. &mdash;Cryptic (talk) 13:57, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete imaginary music genre. Defining a genre of songs by topic is impossible. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 15:30, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete genrecruft. Keep, I'm convinced. Good work.--Isotope23 16:16, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep This is a term that is well known to folklorists. A search for "Murder Ballad" turns up 28,000+ hits on Google. However, it is not a sub-genre of heavy metal (or more properly, it is not limited to heavy metal). I have replaced the what was there with a cut-and-paste of the discussion of Murder Ballads from the article Ballad. However this could be expanded much farther. Dsmdgold 17:40, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, non-imaginary. Kappa 18:26, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, Google Scholar reveals over 30 published research papers in academic journals that use the term 'murder ballad'. Certainly appears to be more folklore related than heavy metal. Average Earthman 19:33, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I've done a quick bit of expanding, as I bumped into a couple of interesting looking references to the same song. And added a link to Nick Cave's 1996 album, of course. Average Earthman
 * Keep and expand and thanks to Dsmdgold and Average Earthman for their efforts. A notable form of ballad. Well known examples include "Tom Dooley", "Stagger Lea" and "Folsom Prison Blues". Nick Cave had an album called the Murder Ballads which contained his biggest hit, a duet with Kylie Minogue "Where the Wild Roses Grow" which went top 5 in the UK and Australia. The late great Johnny Cash was known to have sung a murder ballad or two in his time too - see this link for more . Capitalistroadster 20:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I'd still like to see some citations for this. Most of the Google results I've looked at are fancruft sites or WP mirrors. I will, however, continue to watch this page for developments. It's already more plausible than it was at the time of nomination. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 21:57, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep; this is a common, long-lived genre of folk music. Andrew Levine 22:19, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, well-known genre. --MCB 02:13, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Cap and Andrew L. Grutness...  wha?  02:36, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. Smerdis of Tlön 15:25, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable and interesting. -Colin Kimbrell 20:39, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.