Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murder of Alex Spourdalakis


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The result was delete. Deor (talk) 01:21, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Murder of Alex Spourdalakis

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This page amounts to a BLP1E issue regarding the mother of the victim. i.e a person marginally notable for one event. Sorry, the chance of this ending up as a quagmire of some sort are high. I say it goes. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:24, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete The event does not, in itself, meet Wikipedia notability guidelines, the article is an extended allegation against the mother, etc.  BLP1E is the least of its problems.    The murder does not have major news coverage, which means it likely should be deleted instantly. Collect (talk) 12:45, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Weak Keep The article includes RS from Daily Mail, United Press International, CBS This Morning. This has received national and international coverage.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:14, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete This fails notability on many levels. Though it did show up on CBS, there's a reason for this. A CBS reporter, who has a strong anti-vaccine message, tried to promote this murder in the web of vaccines/autism/Wakefield. But the fact is, as murders go (and this will sound very cold), it's just one of the 10's of thousands of murders that happen in the USA. We can't have an article about every murder. And the notability of this one is really only known by a small subset of individuals who are involved in the vaccine controversies. 97.93.85.226 (talk) 10:15, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * *Keep This tragedy has received extensive national coverage as pointed out by TonyTheTiger. In looking through the coverage, I noticed that this is very important to autism and disabilities communities. Because of the importance of this murder to these communities, WP:BLP1E does not appear to apply. In sum, it meets WP:GNG and the event has long-term importance for autism and disabilities communities. I am One of Many (talk) 16:32, 4 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete I've changed to delete per WP:BLOWITUP, but I recommend waiting to recreate the article till a few more sources come along clearly establishing it persistence. I am One of Many (talk) 21:20, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, per WP:PERP WP:CRIME. Although tragic, this is not a "historic event", it is just a murder, and there are hundreds of murders every day all across the world.  There are also severe and obvious BLP problems with the article, that I'm not going to repeat here, which would require urgent removal if the article were kept.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 01:28, 5 October 2014 (UTC).
 * Delete, this is an event, not a perp, and I have found no evidence of most of the sorts of factors the event notability criteria requires, there may be some geographic scope, but there is no real of lasting effects or persistent coverage, I found a single source which describes this event from the year following the event. I recommend relisting and that discussion participants here consider the factors listed under the event notability criterion.--j⚛e deckertalk 03:46, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm actually a bit torn on this one. The article as written is terrible and might as well be deleted.  However, the murder is notable. The Forbes is an in-depth analysis of the murder and its implications, which demonstrates the notability of the event.  It is still cover by Daily Beast and mentioned in the context of related events as might be expected for an event with persistent coverage, for example, Chicago Tribune and Chicago Tribune.  So, I'm thinking about changing to delete based on WP:BLOWITUP. I am One of Many (talk) 07:14, 5 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:NOTNEWS, which is what the current article is. This is a footnote in the history of dealing with the disabled. I am not convinced by the Forbes article that it is anything more. --Bejnar (talk) 16:42, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
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