Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murder of Amy Leigh Barnes


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The result was   delete.  Sandstein  06:31, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Murder of Amy Leigh Barnes

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The notability of this article has been called into question on the article's talk page by two users, namely myself and THF. Stonemason89 (talk) 20:53, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:NOTNEWS, WP:EFFECT, WP:PERSISTENCE. THF (talk) 21:06, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * (Reluctant) keep. The consensus on notability of criminal acts, as set out in WP:N/CA appears to be less demanding than notability of other subjects.  According to the policy a notable criminal act is one that "receives significant coverage in sources with national or global scope."  This particular event received significant media coverage in 2008  in sources with wide national spread in the UK.  I personally think the guideline is too broad but, as it stands, this event is notable.  Perhaps someone can mount an argument that WP:NOTNEWS modifies WP:N/CA, but is there consensus around such an argument?  Wikipeterproject (talk) 21:14, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. per THF, appreciating Wikipeterproject's argument. Richard Keatinge (talk) 11:28, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete this really falls into WP:NOTNEWS, she was the 28th teenager (not person, teenager) stabbed to death in the UK, the only reason this stands out is because she modeled in some magazines and played a minor role on a popular TV series (in fact so minor that her presence does not show up on IMDB [note there is an unrelated character named Amy Barnes on the show, which skews search results], and she isn't listed at all on our previous Hollyoaks cast listing, or on any of the Lists of minor Hollyoaks characters, of which I searched back to 2005). In my opinion the murder/trial getting press because of that doesn't meet encyclopedia notability.  While Wikipeterproject makes a good point, I would say that NOTNEWS does trump WP:N/CA.  --kelapstick (talk) 18:40, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
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