Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murder of Ibolya Ryan (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) buidhe 17:54, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Murder of Ibolya Ryan
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WP:NOTNEWS. Previous deletion discussion (dominated, as usual, by people who clearly have not read or understood that guideline) closed as no consensus. All the cites are either news coverage of the event, news coverage of the trial or the perps execution; nothing to indicate any lasting significance. TheLongTone (talk) 15:30, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:31, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:31, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Arab Emirates-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:31, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Keep: Someone needs to stop this guy, going on a deletion spree. 11S117 (talk) 17:31, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * See WP:CIVIL. Some things, including this, are not worth including in an encyclopedia.TheLongTone (talk) 16:10, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:19, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Keep: This does not fit the criteria for WP:NOTNEWS. This has WP:GEOSCOPE and by the nom's own admission WP:DEPTH. Being the subject of an academic publication by the Professor of National Security Strategy at the National War College is not WP:ROUTINE.  Bait30  Talk? 18:29, 27 February 2020 (UTC) Keep: One of the few terror attacks in UAE that received international coverage due to the attacker's target and motive.Gianluigi02 (talk), 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 07:49, 28 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep per Bait30. This exceeds the scope of NOTNEWS. Daß &thinsp;  Wölf  19:03, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * If it exceeds the coverage due to being news why is this not reflected in the article? Have any of you heard of wire services?TheLongTone (talk) 16:10, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
 * ...which account for what Bait30 wrongly takes to be an admission of coverage in depth. I would also point out that this crime is not "the subject of an academic publication by the Professor of National Security Strategy at the National War College"; it is mentioned in the paper, which is titled "Framing State Narratives on Terror".TheLongTone (talk) 16:39, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually that’s the subtitle. The title is “The Reem Island Ghost” with Reem Island being the location that the attack took place. If you read the introduction, it’s very clear that the publication is about how the UAE is handling this specific terror attack. And I’m not sure why you’re mentioning wire services. Of the 35 sources, I believe only 2 of them came from wire services (Reuters and AP).  Bait30   Talk? 18:42, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
 * No, its using this attack as an example. An entirely different kettle of fish.TheLongTone (talk) 15:01, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * ” This case study examines the effort of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) to rebuild international confidence in its carefully managed image as a secure, tolerant and viable international partner following the brutal murder of an American school teacher in Abu Dhabi by a Yemeni-born Emirati national in early December 2014” (Walker 2016). I’m going to stop responding now so I’m not WP:BLUD.  Bait30   Talk? 18:19, 2 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - sole victim of a terrorist attack that caused US DOS and UK foreign affairs officials to issue travel warnings. Bearian (talk) 13:53, 3 March 2020 (UTC)


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