Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murder of James Craig Anderson


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. The BLP issues, if any, can be fixed by editing. Consensus is that the topic should remain. Courcelles 17:00, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Murder of James Craig Anderson

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This article about a violent death that is suspected of being a hate crime violates WP:BLP policy concerning the teenage suspect it names, Deryl Dedmon, particularly WP:NPF. Dedmon has been charged with murder, not convicted of murder. The leaking of prejudicial claims to the newspapers should not be legitimized by Wikipedia. I am also filing an AfD on Deryl Dedmon for the same reason.  Sharktopus  talk 02:50, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:BLP does not apply here, but WP:NOTCENSORED does. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 02:54, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: Every statement is both well-cited and attribution to individuals are all labeled as alleged, so WP:BLP does not apply.   By the nominator's logic, we'd be deleting 2011 Norway attacks as well.


 * Beyond that, high profile Lynching in the United States, hate crimes and civil rights cases like this are often exceptions to WP:VICTIM. Examples are Willie Edwards, Michael Donald, Matthew Shepard, Emmett Till, Jimmie Lee Jackson to highlight a few.  Sometimes they're covered in an article about the crime like Murder of James Byrd, Jr. as in this case. Toddst1 (talk) 03:02, 30 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak keep: I'm tempted to think that this passes WP:GEOSCOPE, WP:INDEPTH, and WP:DIVERSE, as the sources are national, with wide and fairly in depth  coverage. The long term effects are unable to be known at the moment. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:15, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: Sources are good and article is not harmful to anyone named via BLP.Jarhed (talk) 04:28, 30 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak delete The hate crime appears fairly pedestrian yet it has received coverage in the NYT and the Sacramento Bee, and has been syndicated, which could arguably make it a notable incident. This seems to be part of a slightly worrying trend where, for individuals who are notable but for one event, articles morph to an event, which may or may not pass genuine scrutiny. I personally think this does not. I don't see anything coming out of it in the long term.  Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 04:35, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * You're serious: A fairly pedestrian hate crime? Toddst1 (talk) 04:38, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps he refers to the fact the victim was a pedestrian? sorry, it just begged for it... :) --Cerejota (talk) 04:31, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 06:57, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mississippi-related deletion discussions.  —&mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 13:08, 30 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete all mention of "suspect" and the redirect in his name. Per WP:BLP. Else delete the whole mess. Wikipedia is not a police blotter for the world.  Cheers. Collect (talk) 16:44, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirects are deleted elsewhere, although if this article is deleted, so will this redirect.--Cerejota (talk) 04:31, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - does not fail WP:BLP´. Everything is well cited and correct.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:31, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, lots of mainstream news coverage, suspect's name has been widely reported. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:20, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, per NawlinWiki, BabbaQ et al. Writegeist (talk) 01:23, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Meets WP:NEVENTS with flying colors, this murder case has become a symbol of existing violent racism in the USA, and dominates current public discourse on race. That is a highly notable, encyclopedic topic. We are not a police blotter, but this case is clearly not a pedestrian hate crime as not being treated as such by the RS. Issues around BLP, if any, should be treated in the article, not via deletion of the article on the incident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cerejota (talk • contribs) 04:31, 1 September 2011
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.