Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murder of Suzan Der Kirkour


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. "Tragic but not notable" (comment from PamD) is not a valid deletion rationale (per WP:NOTNOTABLE). A clear consensus here that the subject meets multiple guidelines like WP:GNG and WP:NEVENT. (non-admin closure) Jovanmilic97 (talk) 20:27, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Murder of Suzan Der Kirkour

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Basically per WP:NOTNEWS. I hate to say it but murders, even horrific ones, are at this stage of the Syrian civil war tragically routine. The article also has a pretty clear WP:NPOV problem (calling the murder a "typical Islamist Hate Crime" and part of a "genocide"). The section "Similar cases of hate crimes suppressed by authorities and media" lists a bunch of conspiracy theories that have nothing to do with the murder of Suzan Der Kirkour and should be removed (I left it there for the purpose of this AfD). Pichpich (talk) 20:09, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 21:06, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Syria-related deletion discussions. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 21:06, 20 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. WP:NOTNEWS aside, this is a WP:COATRACK article with unsalvageable NPOV issues. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 21:09, 20 July 2019 (UTC) Striking !vote, as the POV/COATRACK issues have been addressed. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 18:03, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:20, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 08:34, 21 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete Tragic but not notable. Pam  D  08:36, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. While many deaths in the Syrian civil war are not notable, this particular one clearly passes WP:NCRIME and WP:NEVENT. Ongoing international in-depth coverage - 21 July, 20 July, 18 July, 18 July - WP:RAPID applies here given international coverage of event. Seems the whole Christian aid angle, as well as the gruesome nature of the death, has generated quite a bit of attention. The article had a few NPOV and SYNTH issues - however Deletion is not cleanup and these can be easily rectified (In a quick pass - I think I rectified most of them - combined diff). Icewhiz (talk) 08:37, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per Coverage and WP:GNG. Great sourcing.BabbaQ (talk) 08:48, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - it has generated sufficient attention.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 17:19, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:SIGCOV.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:19, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep What happened to her is a sad story but this has attracted enough attention for WP:NEVENT and WP:GNG. Nikoo.Amini (talk) 14:20, 23 July 2019 (UTC)


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