Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murder of Yafim Weinstein


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The result was   no consensus. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 12:12, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Murder of Yafim Weinstein

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Another religious murder but seems entirely lacking notability, unless i'm missing something. scope_creep talk 16:20, 22 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete I am not sure that this article meets the notability guidelines. It appears to be a typical murder - as a rule, murders are not notable. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (Message me) 16:17, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment You seem to be confused, giving a "Keep" != vote with a "delete" rationale. Edison (talk) 02:56, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Whoops! Switched. Thanks! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (Message me) 14:18, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep The fact that the murder was a hate crime, that the murderers were identified during investigation of an arms-smuggling/terrorism ring, and the fact that the murderers were arrested in Africa while en route to join Al Qaida makes this murder notable.ShulMaven (talk) 21:04, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree with your vote, but I have to say that's an unusual rationale. No detail about a crime can make it intrinsically notable—not even links to arms smuggling or al-Qa'ida—only the existence of reliable sources about it. I grant you that those kind of details probably draw the interest of reliable sources, but ultimately it's the sources, not the details, that the notability guideline cares about.—Neil P. Quinn (talk) 20:19, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 00:44, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Keep. Sources seem to establish notability. Everyking (talk) 02:06, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment It's a murder which means it's non notable. By their nature, they have sources, because they are investigated by police, tried at court (usually) and sentenced, then reported on. If it is a heinous crime, the usually the local paper(s) will report it, international if it is a serial killer. But the problem is that there are 10's of thousands of murders every day across the world, a certain percentage are weird, complex, strange, international, wicked, truly evil, but ultra common. Every know combinations of events, people, fetishes, types, types of people, places etc. They simply are not notable. Wikipedia is not a directory, which it will become if we start recording common murders, even if it is a wee but exotic. I can remember at least 8 murders in the last 25 years involving gun running. scope_creep talk  21:46  05 September 2014 (UTC)
 * All murders are non-notable? Everyking (talk) 01:38, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * (Weak) keep. I'm not aware of a separate rule for the notability of murders (although even if I was, I'd probably doubt its value), so as usual the issue rests on sources. I'd say this is a borderline case since the mentions are somewhat brief, but I do see independent attention from sources including Haaretz, The Jerusalem Post, and CNN. —Neil P. Quinn (talk) 20:19, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * adding wider range of sources. It was an Al Qaeda cell, so there was coverage, CNN, et.. Yafim, Yefim - transliterations vary.ShulMaven (talk) 22:30, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Rcsprinter123    (yak)  @ 19:01, 11 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. I noticed this AfD on its initial listing and felt then that it probably should be deleted, but I decided to wait to see if there was going to be additional content that might indicate notability. However, there has been none, it appears that it is not a notable enough event, so I will now say delete it. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 20:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - notability reached through WP:GNG.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:34, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
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