Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murdered musicians


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The result was keep. ...and moving to List of murdered musicians. If the said list gets expanded in the future, then Clarityfiend's suggestion of renaming the list to "Lists" can also be undertaken. (non-admin closure)  Lourdes  02:56, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Murdered musicians

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There is no relevant connection between murder victims and musicians. The page has no relevant sources except a ranker page which list 26 not 15 people.. Legacypac (talk) 07:09, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Trivia. Category should be enough. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:58, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * How is it trivia as a list but not as a category? It's the same classification or grouping regardless of format. postdlf (talk) 01:33, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment Could redirect to List of deaths in rock and roll since most on the murdered musicians list would fit on the other list? --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:16, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. According to a study, murder rates differ significantly for different music genres, peaking at a staggering 51% among rappers and hip hoppers, but that's a different potential article. (Oddly enough, blues artists have an above-average average lifespan.) It makes no sense to lump them all together. Don't redirect, as we also have a List of murdered hip hop musicians. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:51, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Rename Lists of murdered musicians, not List of murdered musicians. We've already got List of murdered hip hop musicians and another could easily be obtained from List of deaths in rock and roll. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:28, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:CLN and Category:Murdered musicians. The list does demonstrate the advantages of a list, I suppose, with six sortable fields. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:36, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:36, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:36, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:37, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * "“There is absolutely no database on pop musicians alive or dead,” Kenny said. “So I had to troll through the Internet.” But Kenny wasn’t just checking out Wikipedia." that tells me this is not an encyclopedia topic. It's OR. Legacypac (talk) 17:49, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:CLN and Category:Murdered musicians. I agree that the list demonstrates the advantages of a list. It has the potential for quick growth that will add dimension. Although it is in need of more rigorous sourcing, that is something I am interested enough to have begun working on today. To expand the article's utility, I have collected a list of 43 notable musicians today and have found an array of legitimate sources for citation. I'm interested in knowing whether others here think it would be useful to categorize the list by either genre or decade to further maximize its sortability. (talk) 17:47, 21 June 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by KarenERiggs (talk • KarenERiggs (talk) 12:36, 22 June 2017 (UTC)contribs)
 * Keep per WP:CLN and Category:Murdered musicians. BabbaQ (talk) 22:07, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Rename to List of murdered musicians. The list is fine to keep but there's never going to be any other content. Power~enwiki (talk) 23:07, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Followup: 11 artists have been added. Significant to me is that the range of genres has diversified. Subsequently, I edited to provide links and bring consistency to artists' notability (genre + instrument role). I hope to add several of my own items but will wait to see how this discussion turns out. Hope this helps. § KarenERiggs (talk) 18:05, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, rename, too. My bad. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:56, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Rename Previous arguments are convincing. kareneriggs 08:39, 22 June 2017 (UTC)§KarenERiggs (talk) 12:40, 22 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Support renaming. This not a notable topic but is an acceptable list of all blue links Legacypac (talk) 03:36, 25 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Rename to List of murdered musicians. A well-defined topic - to which I've just added three names from classical music for good measure (two from personal knowledge, one after a search), with citations. Searching to create or edit an article (including a list) isn't WP:OR - it's research. WP:OR only comes into play when an editor adds, or attributes, something to a source which isn't there. Narky Blert (talk) 13:34, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I've just added another classical musician - I vaguely remembered the case, and found the name easily enough. Narky Blert (talk) 13:50, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I could add at least three more who were murdered in Auschwitz in 1944 :-( Narky Blert (talk) 20:30, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I've just added a Qawwali singer, murdered by the Taliban in 2016 for being the wrong sort of Muslim. Narky Blert (talk) 22:17, 27 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:NOTDUP relative to Category:Murdered musicians, then rename to List of murdered musicians. North America1000 02:15, 29 June 2017 (UTC)


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