Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Musa Khamanaev


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The result was   delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 07:36, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Musa Khamanaev

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Non-notable MMA fighter does not meet WP:NMMA Peter Rehse (talk) 17:19, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep - meets WP:GNG based on consistent coverage in Russian and Chechen press. He was a world champion in Sambo, which the Russians are really into. Do a news search below for his name in Russian. —Мандичка YO 😜 19:35, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you provide a link to a good, reliable, independent source (preferably a news story) that shows he was a world champion? I found a claim that he was a world combat sambo champion in 2008 but I also found results from the 2008 event that don't list him as even winning a medal. Until such evidence is presented I vote Delete. Jakejr (talk) 13:18, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
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 * delete He's not notable for his MMA and I couldn't find any independent reliable sources to support the sambo world champion claim. If such evidence is provided, you can change my vote to keep.Astudent0 (talk) 19:52, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear it wasn't a Sambo world champion but a varient.Peter Rehse (talk) 14:30, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe the "Combat Sambo" championships are held concurrently with regular Sambo. Papaursa (talk) 00:57, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 23:27, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep - sources provided through the foreign language searches above show that he passes WP:GNG. this link seems to indicate that he was a champion at Sambo (admittedly, my computer translation program isn't conclusive, but it appears to show it).  Onel 5969  TT me 13:48, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm currently withholding my vote, but my search (even in Russian) only turned up routine sports reporting about his non-notable MMA career. Like several other editors, I think he's notable if someone can provide reliable independent sources to show his world championship.  He clearly fails WP:NMMA and I didn't find significant enough coverage to show he meets WP:GNG, but a world combat sambo title would provide the presumption of notability (at least to me). Papaursa (talk) 00:57, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete I could find no reliable sources to show he was a world combat sambo champion and the sources I could find consisted of announcements and results of MMA fights. I saw nothing in the article mentioned by Onel5969 that said he was a world sambo champion and he's not notable as an MMA fighter. Also fails WP:GNG. The burden of proof is on those who claim notability and so far there's a lack of evidence from reliable independent sources. Mdtemp (talk) 19:50, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm voting to delete since he doesn't meet WP:GNG and there's no evidence that he meets any SNG. Papaursa (talk) 04:11, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


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