Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Musa Muhammed (entrepreneur)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  14:16, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Musa Muhammed (entrepreneur)

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Spam sources, we really need to blacklist some of these. 17 year old Nigerian "internet entrepreneur" who is famous enough to be featured in Bangladesh with his company "Sam Marketer", which according to their own website "Sam Marketer provides top-notch digital marketing services, including Wikipedia article creation" where they also claim to have worked for Real Madrid! No evidence of this can be found, of course. Typical use of "articles" in "newspapers" where you just pay to get a profile online, making it look as if you are really successful. Nothing reliable could be found to establish that they have received any independent attention. Fram (talk) 13:29, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Technology,  and Nigeria. Fram (talk) 13:29, 15 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't this are fake according to interview by Vanguard Their company were new company maybe before he start "Sam Marketer" he have been working for Real Madrid and according to their online presence they have independent sourcessorting/Technology|Technology]],  and Nigeria. Sammarkk (talk) 13:42, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Why do you, Sammarkk, pretend not to be associated with Sam Marketer? Or should I say User:Ishola0? Instead of an AfD, this page should be G4 deleted and salted, see Draft:Musa Muhammed Olayinka and Musa Muhammed Olayinka. Fram (talk) 13:52, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Am new here so I just choose topic and I see it already deleted page that's I change the name and you can that I have contribute to many articles Sammarkk (talk) 13:57, 15 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete not notable. These paid articles to serve as refs for 'entrepreneurs' are a problem across Nigerian Wikipedia, I've nominated half a dozen of them in the last couple days. Nswix (talk) 14:01, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt. Not notable, largely PROMO and iffy sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 15:22, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete or speedy and salt. I agree with Fram, we need to start blacklisting some of these seemingly legit sources that are happy to run any promo story for clicks; otherwise this will sooner or later make a complete mockery of our notability standards. (And I note with some despair that Indian media are now exporting their churnalism services abroad. Oh great.) --DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:55, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Maybe we should have a new CSD criteria for founders, CEOs and entrepreneurs who are in high school or even junior high school. I saw an article about a 13 year old "industrialist" recently. Liz Read! Talk! 21:40, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Should have a CSD for articles made up of nothing but these paid promotional articles. They're easy enough to spot and so many BLPs that get deleted are full of them. Nswix (talk) 23:23, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep/rewrite There's significant coverage about the article, while the article might not pass WP:NPOV and might be non disclosure of payment, this article should be cleaned up and rewrite, it may be move to the draft space, but shouldn't be deleted Lolafam (talk) 11:30, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nominator. DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 22:31, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Strong keep - see Vanguard (Nigeria) and The Guardian (Nigeria). These are major national newspapers in Nigeria. The subject clearly meets the notability requirements. I don't find the content of the newspaper articles very compelling but that's true of 100,000's of Wikipedia articles on North American topics and their North American references. The writing style of the newspaper articles is a bit florid but if you read the Nigerian press, that's typical. -- A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 18:28, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This is clearly a scam page. An entrepreneur who dropped out of university and started a company which is now doing so well hes had multiple articles published about him, by 17 years old?
 * Those publications might not be as trustworthy as you think if they're writing about fluff pieces about teenage 'entrepreneurs'. Nswix (talk) 19:41, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, there's no shortage in North America of people who're famous for being famous. As I said, I'm personally not very interested in this person; should this person be notable -- I don't think so. I'd delete about 20% of our articles if it were up to me to decide based on what should be notable. But that's not the basis of our notability requirements. Like it or not, this kid's in the national news.
 * I go by what is notable and that will be the closing admin's approach, too.
 * Those newspapers are the national newspapers I read while in Nigeria. Their tone is distinctly Nigerian.-- A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 19:56, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * These articles are paid for crapvertising, and these newspapers should be blacklisted, as we clearly can´t trust them to post articles based on objective newsworthiness or truthfulness. We shouldn´t tolerate such practices to govern Wikipedia content even if these are the main newspapers of a large country. The claims in the article can not be matched to anything in reality, just like the claims on the company website (Real Madrid???) are completely imaginary. The "article" in the Bengali newspaper just gives more evidence of the intent behind and the reason for these articles, paid for promotion. Fram (talk) 21:32, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete based on this comment by User:JoelleJay at Articles for deletion/Omogboye Saheed Ayodeji. It cites a journalism expert discussing rampant Nigerian journalism corruption. (That said, the Nigerian reporting style during my short time there was florid even when reporting stuff like the weather.) -- A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 19:24, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. The subject clearly lacks independent coverage in reliable sources. Both the Vanguard and The Guardian sources are promotional pieces meant to give the subject an internet presence.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 02:57, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Strong Support for : I think, this article is not notable. I do not know if it is right to say this! A person with this name forced me to create this article on Social Media! I declined the offer to make this article because I didn't find it noteworthy! Maybe he paid someone else or he could create this article himself! ≈ Farhan  «Talk» 08:15, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails WP:Sigcov and WP:GNG. Maliner (talk) 08:43, 22 June 2023 (UTC)


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