Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Musashi Heat Bears


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The result was   delete. Wizardman 20:31, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Musashi Heat Bears

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Very recently established semi-professional baseball club in Japan; I couldn't establish that it meets WP:CLUB or WP:GNG Boleyn (talk) 19:18, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerlyHMSSolent)|lambast 00:06, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerlyHMSSolent)|lambast 00:06, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:44, 10 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep Fully professional baseball team. Alex (talk) 03:57, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Only a semi-professional team, and does not appear to satisfy the WP:CLUB criteria. --DAJF (talk) 01:54, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment regarding whether it is a professional team. The league's article describes the competition as semi-professional, with players earning a standard salary of 150,000 per month, with performance bonuses of up to an extra 50,000 per month. The Japanese article expands on this by saying that each player signs a "professional contract". However, it also clarifies that players only get paid for the seven months of the year that the league is active, and that they have a support system to help athletes find temporary work during the off-season. A person could not live in Japan on an annual salary of 1.4 million yen (the maximum possible payment including all performance bonuses). So I do not think it is possible to say that the team is part of a league of fully professional players. But if an athlete getting paid approximately US$10,000 to US$15,000 is enough to call them professional, then I stand to be corrected.
 * Otherwise, the question must then turn to whether there is enough independent coverage to support the notability of the team. I would like to do some more research before commenting further on that. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 07:37, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:44, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CLUB. I have no problem, however, if enough sources are found in the future to reinstate it. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 17:25, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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