Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muse (Valery Leontiev album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. WP:NPASR. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 06:01, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Muse (Valery Leontiev album)

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Unsourced, written in an unencyclopedic manner, and weak, if any, claim to notability  S ven M anguard   Wha?  21:34, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:55, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - Per WP:NOTCLEANUP and WP:BEFORE the nominator has not given valid reasons to propose deletion, but instead indicated that the article needs improvement. There are already edit tags to that effect. -- D OOMSDAYER 520  (Talk|Contribs) 15:44, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:11, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Response For the record, there are no acceptable sources for this album at this time that I could find. There, I said it.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  05:34, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I believe this article is a straight translation of the existing Russian article, hence why it reads so strangely. Singer himself is, indeed, one of the most popular old-school pop-singers of USSR and Russia. --Ezhuks (talk) 20:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep I'm going to have to learn Russian before I can be absolutely sure, but it looks to me that the artist is notable, this is his debut album (called Муза in Russia), and it seems to be acceptable under "In general, if the musician or ensemble is notable, and if the album in question has been mentioned in multiple reliable sources, then their officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia." WP:NALBUM Wickedjacob (talk) 07:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Execpt that it fails the "mentioned in multiple reliable sources" part, as far as I can see.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  05:36, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I admit I can't find any either. But the artist is indisputably notable, and the album was released before the days of the internet, so its not out of the question that the coverage is there and just not easy to find.  And while notability isn't inherited, it is common practice to allow for articles that feature artists that later became notable.  See The_Moon_Is_Down_(album), The_Himalayans, Goo_Goo_Dolls_(album).  I know WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is far from an airtight argument, but I would hate for us to be applying a different standard to American artists just because it easier to find coverage. Wickedjacob (talk) 06:54, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  essay  // 22:57, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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