Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muse fans' boycott


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was DELETE. The one valid keep argument did not rebut the arguments that this was just a transient news story. postdlf (talk) 01:25, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Muse fans' boycott

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Article that will quickly become obsolete (the band tours in May 2011). The author might wish to start a blog or visit a forum. WP:NOTSOAPBOX. PROD was contested by the author without explanation. Ben Ben (talk) 21:16, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Appears to have significant coverage in 3rd parties. Notability isn't temporary.  Obsolete is meaningless in the context of an encyclopedia.  Some sources difficult to verify because I don't speak Ukranian, which is also not a reason to delete.  Dennis Brown (talk) 21:39, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: An encyclopedia is not equal to a newspaper archive.--Ben Ben (talk) 22:12, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Correct It simply catalogs events that multiple reliable sources (at any time) felt were worth reporting on. As to being a soapbox, once notability is established, that is a matter of content, not existence.  The problems with the article are related to style, and not fatal.  Dennis Brown (talk) 22:26, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: WP:PERSISTENCE and WP:SENSATION--Ben Ben (talk) 23:19, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Forgot to mention WP:NOTSCANDAL and WP:ADVOCACY--Ben Ben (talk) 23:26, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment' WP:JUSTAPOLICY Dennis Brown (talk) 00:20, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Out of policies arguments? Citation:The same is true when asserting that something does follow policy--Ben Ben (talk) 00:43, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is clearly WP:TRANSIENT, a storm in a teacup. It will all be forgotten next month when the tour goes ahead and the real fans turn up irrespective. Such WP:Fancruft is not notable and has no place in Wikipedia. Looks like some Ukrainians are still not ready for capitalism! WWGB (talk) 00:34, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:19, 4 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - per WP:PERSISTENCE as pointed by Ben Ben. We can't say at this point how this will turn out, and we don't need to. Right now this is an ongoing event with no particular transcendence. If it becomes significant then it can be covered in the band's page, or a separate article if appropriate. - patitomr (talk) 14:40, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Article describes notable event in cultural life of Nation with more than 2000 people involved. Facebook group has support comments from people from all over the world. Even guys from musical band "Hurts" (Theo Hutchcraft and Adam Anderson) have mentioned this boycott in their interview with supporting words by saying "good luck for the guys from Ukraine. I hope the truth will be on their side.." (from Russian). In any result of event article will be updated to keep the historical facts. By the way, WWGB, it's not good to abuse the Nation while talking about arguments for deletion.Sanaravena (talk) 23:20, 4 April 2011 (UTC) — Sanaravena (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Oh, I'm not abusing "the Nation", just those individuals who fail to realise that market forces set concert prices. If the concert is full, then clearly there were people willing to pay the asking rate. If they don't buy tickets, then the band or promoter loses money. It's that simple. Bleating on the Internet won't change the ticket prices, but lack of bookings might. WWGB (talk) 01:43, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * we are not the sheeps to "bleat". Your boorish communication leads to the thought about your prejudice to this event and opinion of such person should not be considered as meaningful.Sanaravena (talk) 11:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * "Sheeps"???
 * It's not the first event of this kind. There was a boycott of Metallica fans in Israel a year ago and they succeeded in 4 days. Muse fans' boycott aims the same goal.Sanaravena (talk) 13:24, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * ... and that boycott did not have a Wikipedia article either! WWGB (talk) 11:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * ... and it's not good that Wikipedia does not have an article describing such historical event Sanaravena (talk) 11:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * ... it doesn't have it yet. it was shorter with less opposition. Sanaravena (talk) 15:05, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

— Olgasavelieva (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. WWGB (talk) 23:18, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - This is Wikipedia not Wikinews. -- Whpq (talk) 16:34, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - the article throws some light upon an actual probleme in the life of the Ukrainian young people and gives the opportunity to the reader to decide whether to support this action or not. in any rate it gives the INFORMATION. that is the main objective of Wikipedia, isn't it?Olgasavelieva —Preceding undated comment added 22:26, 9 April 2011 (UTC).
 * Merge with Muse (band). - SudoGhost (talk) 06:49, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - The effort of making such a boycott is a result of social consciousness extending not only within a certain country. The support of the representatives from various countries proves that it's an interesting phenomenon, which may eventually develop into a powerful way of influence. Fire.Tree (talk) 12:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Please, could you cite from the article where it is about ... social consciousness... and ... representatives from various countries... and ... may eventually develop...? WP:INDEPTH and WP:EFFECT Thanks.--Ben Ben (talk) 12:52, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: ... may eventually develop... - ok, I take that back, it's only my assumption. ... representatives from various countries... - people that joined Facebook movement were meant here. Yes, it can be added to the text, although it's hard to prove by proper references (I'm not sure if links to facebook group members page would be sufficient, and it's impossible to give links to separete comments on facebook). Social consciousness - when people are able to gather to protest, it shows some level of it. Fire.Tree (talk) 13:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.