Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mushfiqul Alam


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Consensus is clear in that the individual is not sufficiently notable for inclusion. Arguments for keeping the article are weak and lack the support of relevant policies. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 15:43, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Mushfiqul Alam

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No evidence of any notability; cited sources do not support claims. OhNo itsJamie Talk 02:15, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete - There is exactly 1 Google news mention of the subject (a 1 sentence mention in Ceylon Daily News in 2001). (And yes, Bangladeshi newspapers are available online since early 2000s, even those don't mention the subject). Subject's notability as an author is not supported by third party coverage. Subject's claim of the Japanese medallion is not substantiated by a verifiable source. Subject's claim to be a "composer" is also not supported by any references. Finally, subject's claim to be the only aerial photographer is also not supported by any source (other than the subject's own website). It is interesting that the subject (and various socks) want to portray the subject to be so many things -- author/photographer/composer (and at one point, a "scientist"), but the subject has not received no coverage by any reliable source. --Ragib (talk) 02:20, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep- Mushfiqul Alam is an honorable person of Bangladesh. Not sure why User:Ragib and User:Ohnoitsjamie (who are friends) are trying to defame the person!--Planetbd (talk) 03:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Interesting ... how do we know Mushfiqul Alam is an honorable person of Bangladesh? Because you/he claim(s) so? References from reliable sources would be much better than your word of mouth. Also, whether or not I and User:Ohnoitsjamie are friends or foes, does that matter in establishing the subject's notability? (I didn't know about my "friendship" with Ohnoitsjamie ... thanks for informing me about it). We are establishing notability here, and not trying to defame anyone. Showing someone is non-notable is not a defamation. --Ragib (talk) 03:05, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Even after being a world famous journalist himself, article on Shafik Rehman is deleted from wikipedia two times because of so called term "notability"! This was failurity of Bangladeshi wikipedians I think. As a Bangladeshi User:Ragib (who is working like a Razakar now unfortunately) must know that online refrences on Bangladeshi famous persons are difficult to find and Bangladeshi newspapers are not that damn good on archiving their articles online. So, I feel personaly ashmed of acts of User:Ragib now.


 * It is CLEAR that User:Ragib and User:Ohnoitsjamie are known to each other as they proposed deletion of Mushfiqul Alam and Tunes of Heaven at the same time with voting to each other. I want to catch ATTENTION to Senior Editors and Admistrators of Wikipedia on this act.--Planetbd (talk) 03:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I am an admin, and I'll be sure to notify myself of this nefarious plot. OhNo itsJamie Talk 04:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ^hahaha The Weak Willed 12:26, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Me too :), but I would request planetbd to take this to ANB if he wants ... --Ragib (talk) 05:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Planetbd,you have crossed a major line by attacking me and calling me names. I'm reporting this to the admin's noticeboard. You might disagree with me, or even be ashamed of me, but calling me names won't buy you anything. You are free to report me or ohnoitsjamie to ANB as well ... Here is the link to that. Rather than cursing other wikipedians, you would do Mushfiq/yourself a favor if you dig up references supporting his notability. Mushfiq is non-notable, and cursing me 1000 times won't make him any less so. Also, being a Bangladeshi does not mean that I should promote non-notable, self-promoting persons just because they are from that country ... rather my task is to root out fake claims (such as Bangladeshi newspapers aren't online) about non-notable persons from BD. Thank you. --Ragib (talk) 05:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Can't verify claims and there doesn't seem to be any notability that I can find online at least. Claiming it is difficult to establish notability doesn't remove the onus from the authors. Fuzbaby (talk) 04:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment According to Google Books, he's listed in the "Encyclopaedia of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh". Anyone know the reliability of this work as a source? --Alvestrand (talk) 06:41, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Alvestrand, if you check again, you'd see that the "encyclopedia" is simply a collection of Wikipedia pages. For comparison, check the entry Musa Khel on the same page, and compare the text to this. --Ragib (talk) 06:44, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks - didn't realize "wikipedia in print" was a running business already in 2006! And nonattributed (at least in GB's excerpt), of course :-( --Alvestrand (talk) 06:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * STRONG KEEP - Google Hits tells the person is notable.--Musicmaniaz (talk) 11:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You might want to read GOOGLE before using this criteria in the future. Furthermore, 624 hits (mostly to social networking sites and forums) doesn't make much of a case regardless. OhNo itsJamie Talk 13:46, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong delete/Speedy Delete Fails notability. Google search shows only 2,710 sites. The Weak Willed 12:26, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: Above, Planetbd writes: Mushfiqul Alam is an honorable person of Bangladesh. I have no reason to doubt this, or an assertion that the great majority of the population of Bangladesh are honorable. However, honor (even if verifiable via reliable sources) is not sufficient for an entry at Wikipedia. Indeed, it's not even necessary: Wikipedia has articles on this and other dishonorable musicians, this and other dishonorable writers, and of course a great number of dishonorable businessmen. -- Hoary (talk) 22:43, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Hoary, Please check the entries/comments for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sher-E-Bangla_Nagar_Government_Boys'_High_School another AFD that says it all.--Planetbd (talk) 02:36, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't understand why you compare Mushfiq with a school, so clarifying your comment will be helpful. Schools are by default considered notable per precedent, but non-notable persons are not considered so without sufficient evidence of notability. --Ragib (talk) 05:42, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions.  —Ragib (talk) 06:16, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. No substantive evidence for any claim of notability. -- Hoary (talk) 22:07, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete I have been unable to find any reliable sources for this person. He fails WP:BIO. Cunard (talk) 06:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment A Worldcat search fails to find anything under book title, ISBN, or author name. This site indicates Mojar Hobby Electronics is/was a magazine, not a book. A google search for "Mojar Hobby Electronics Mushfiqul brings up only the Wikipedia article and clones thereof.  Some jerk on the Internet (talk) 13:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - I simply cannot find any sources to establish notability for this person. -- Whpq (talk) 18:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.