Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mushroom sauce


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Editors disagree about whether this food has sufficient coverage for notability.  Sandstein  05:16, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Mushroom sauce

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This AfD page was originally created in 2005 as a redirect to Articles for deletion/Lettuce soup, as I guess that's how bundled AfD nominations worked back then. All articles in that bundle were deleted, but this article was recreated in December 2010. It was nominated for AfD by but Twinkle failed to create the deletion discussion page. I assume the nomination is along the lines of non-notable food product.

If I erred in fixing this nomination please un-fix it, correctly fix it, and let me know. Thanks. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 04:55, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:27, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. This sounds like a WP:HOWTO article. Is there anything inherently notable out of a sauce made from mushrooms. It it were then wouldn't it have a French name? Or sound a whole lot more impressive than "mushroom sauce".  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 12:42, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Does sauce champignons whet your appetite more than mushroom sauce? Phil Bridger (talk) 14:09, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * What? No "à la Crème". That sounds as bland as "mushroom sauce" and it doesn't sound anywhere near as sexy as "Gratin de finnois". And why is only one kind of mushroom sauce mentioned in this article? There are many different kinds of mushroom sauce. It's not a very definitive WP:HOWTO. Come to think of it, there are no articles on "Gratin de finnois" either. A gross miscarriage of justice. :-)  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 00:19, 9 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment delete since the bundled articles were deleted speedy I tried to AfD this as I would a contested speedy. Basically this is just a dictdef, and a tautology at that (mushroom sauce is a sauce made of mushrooms) about which little more can be said. HominidMachinae (talk) 15:43, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * but the article already does say more than that. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:22, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The act of nominating for AfD is the same as recommending delete.  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 21:14, 15 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep As Phil points out by reference to the photo file, this is one of the classic "small sauces" of French cuisine, composed of a "mother sauce", in the case béchamel or velouté, to which mushrooms and other ingredients are added. See the list of specific sauce article wiki-linked to Sauce, among which is Mushroom sauce. Oh yes, it needs improvement and proper references, but it's more than a "how to" as it is. Having a main article linked to many sub-articles is common on WP and keeps the main subject article from getting too unwieldy. Geoff  Who, me?  20:34, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep This is a specific food of culinary significance, with abundant possible references. I think we could probably reconstruct some other of those articles also--its not hard finding content.    DGG ( talk ) 21:41, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per DGG. Am I the only active member of the Rescue Suqad any more? Bearian (talk) 17:36, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Plenty of available sources and potential for expansion. I just added a couple to the article. Qrsdogg (talk) 20:24, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. I wanted to try rescuing this article. But "mushroom sauce" isn't mentioned in McGee's On Food And Cooking or Corriher's CookWise. Heck, even Escoffier couldn't come up with more than three sentences, none of which are anything more than a recipe.  There's not really a higher authority for sauces than Escoffier. And as we know, Wikipedia isn't a cookbook. To the extent that mushroom sauce has any notability, it should be a brief mention at Allemande sauce, because that's the mother sauce of Sauce aux Champignons. // ⌘macwhiz (talk) 04:11, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.