Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Music Box Tour


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The result was keep per concensus, as well as being withdrawn by nominator. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 01:12, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Music Box Tour


Google turns up few (more precisely no, that I can find) hits aside from fan sites. While the artist is certainly notable, the tour seems not to be-better handled on her page or deleted, as reliable sources regarding this seem to be in short supply or nonexistent. Sourced after all, appears I was incorrect. Please withdraw nom. Seraphimblade 14:07, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. This article is just getting started, as work is progressing on all of the Category:Mariah Carey tours articles. Having an article on a major artist's tour is no different than having an article on an album or a hit single, of which Wikipedia has zillions.  There are about 275 tour articles now on Wikipedia, see Category:Concert tours.  Mariah Carey tours as a whole are in fact more notable than many, because she tends to play outside her native country more than most U.S. artists and she tends to play in unusual regions of Asia, the Middle East, and so forth for a U.S. act.  There is no reason to delete this article; with it, it completes the coverage of the six Carey tours to date.  Wasted Time R 14:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment, and disclaimer-I'm also strongly against "albums are notable enough for an article just because the person who wrote them is." A lot of albums would be better handled on the artist's page. However, that aside, it doesn't seem that this tour is notable or reliably sourced, even though her later ones seem to be. Seraphimblade 14:24, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment In fact, there are non-fan-page sources on this tour, since it was given poor reviews by newspaper critics and written about in the Shapiro Mariah Carey biography. The Mariah Carey main article mentions this and gives a book cite for it. The bad reception is part of the reason she avoided playing in the (continental) U.S. for several subsequent tours, and so is important to describing the arc of her career. This article has just begun and needs work, but that is no reason for deletion.  Wasted Time R 14:51, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Further comment Please note that I now have a significant number of non-fan-page sources for this article, and I believe I have also conclusively demonstrated the tour's notability, as it gained a lot of national media attention at the time as well as having an effect on Carey's subsequent career.  Wasted Time R 00:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * [implicit Keep] At first it was not fully completed it still is not it has a lot more information there are a lot of concert tour pages I do not think this one should be deleted. Interestedscholar 14:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep. Nomination withdrawn. Tonywalton | Talk 10:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per others. Velten 00:03, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.