Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Music for Pleasure Music for Pain


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Space (English band). ✗ plicit  23:49, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Music for Pleasure Music for Pain

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Fails WP:NALBUM quite easily, but the article creator insists on repeatedly reverting the redirect, so bringing this to AfD to gain consensus. I don't blame the article creator for not improving the article... because there are literally no independent sources with which to do so. The current sources are two social media posts, and two quotes from an WP:PRIMARY interview with members of the band, laced with some original research, about how the album was written on a bass guitar and the effects pedals that were used – the album is not even named in the interview. This does not make the album notable. The album didn't chart anywhere, and it doesn't appear to have been reviewed anywhere at all – absolutely nothing online, and I've tried checking print versions of UK music publications Mojo and Uncut and found nothing in there either. In summary, nobody apart from the band members appear to have said anything at all about this record, and I believe it should be redirected to Space (English band). Richard3120 (talk) 19:56, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 20:00, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 20:00, 4 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I know there isn't a great deal of research online to be found for this album, and it hasn't received any chart placings or reviews yet, but all the other Space albums have Wikipedia articles, and it would be unfair for this album to left without a page. It would feel very incomplete and not up to date in the great scheme of things. TrippyDippy (talk) 20:30, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * But that's not how Wikipedia works – the notability can't be WP:INHERITED just because the artist or other albums have articles, the album needs to be independently notable. And it's been out for six months, I think if it hasn't charted or been reviewed by now, it never will be. Richard3120 (talk) 20:38, 4 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Space (English band), and protect against another reversion. Like the nominator, I can find no reliable reviews or other significant coverage for the album, which is unusual and probably disappointing for an established band that has some success in its past. There is simply not enough info out there for an encyclopedic article. There is no harm in redirecting because if the album turns out to be a late bloomer, a full article with robust sources can be created at that time. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 13:46, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Space (English band). Fails WP:NALBUM per nom. SBKSPP (talk) 01:09, 7 May 2022 (UTC)


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