Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muslim Model High School, Lahore


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. North America1000 12:41, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Muslim Model High School, Lahore

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fails WP:GNG.. Saqib (talk) 12:23, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. North America1000 12:36, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. North America1000 12:36, 17 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. Before reading WP:GNG, one should have a read of WP:N from the very beginning. A topic is presumed to merit an article if: It meets either the general notability guideline below, or the criteria outlined in a subject-specific guideline listed in the box on the right; and It is not excluded under the What Wikipedia is not policy. Now if we go through the subject specific guidelines in WP:OUTCOMES, reading thorough WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, the school clearly falls in the category. It reads: "Populated, legally-recognized places" include school districts, which conveys near-inherent notability to school districts per Wikipedia:Notability (geography). One should read all of the rules together rather than dwelling too much into one or two points that attract deletion.   M A A Z     T A L K   12:57, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:OUTCOMES is not a policy page. --Saqib (talk) 13:28, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Muslim_Model_High_School,_Pattoki.  M A A Z     T A L K   14:40, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Clearly mentioned in the 'box on the right' of WP:N. Clearly following Wikipedia rules per WP:N.   M A A Z     T A L K   13:37, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * A similar case. procedurally closed this AfD:
 * Keep as a secondary school per longstanding precedent and consensus and my usual reasons. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:26, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as nothing in WP:RS. Also see which states no school is inherently notable.  Störm   (talk)  09:24, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Nothing in WP:RS? What about the 20-page academic article cited in the article? 86.17.222.157 (talk) 12:15, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It is case-study. Störm   (talk)  18:54, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is. How does that make it unreliable? 86.17.222.157 (talk) 20:50, 19 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Sufficient notabilty. scope_creep (talk) 13:41, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. Found 3 more RS. :) :) :) Now there are a total of at-least 5-6 RS mentioned. This should be significant for notability:
 * i)Biographical Encyclopedia of Pakistan, pg:888
 * ii)The Year Book of Education 1961: CONCEPTS OF EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION.
 * iii)https://dailytimes.com.pk/171554/teachers-condemn-punjab-govts-draconian-policies/
 * iv)https://www.worldcat.org/issn/1818-3344
 * v)http://conduct.biselahore.com/ShowInstitutions.aspx
 * vi)https://herald.dawn.com/news/1153818
 * vii)   M A A Z     T A L K   21:16, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep the article has adequate sources and notability. It would constitute a bias to assume the school is not notable given the schools are not inherently notable.  samee  talk 16:07, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support The sources by MAAZ above are enough to show notability for high school. –Ammarpad (talk) 21:48, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete passing references are not enough to show notability. School outcomes is not policy.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:54, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * How is a 20-page paper about the school in an academic journal a passing reference? 86.17.222.157 (talk) 17:08, 21 January 2018 (UTC)


 * References are not enough to show notability? then what does? I've mentioned atleast 6-7 reliable sources now. RS are the best sources according to Wikipedia.   M A A Z     T A L K   12:57, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I realised you added a couple of unreliable sources. Please avoid. --Saqib (talk) 13:00, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes thank you for mentioning that. Those sources were mentioned before (not after the article was AFD), and they are excluded in the list of 7 RS mentioned above. The other sources are removed now. :)   M A A Z     T A L K   13:32, 21 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep per longstanding precedent at AfD that secondary schools of demonstrated existence are presumed reliable. Now, who reads Urdu? Carrite (talk) 15:16, 23 January 2018 (UTC)


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