Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muslim population growth in India


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete -- JForget 01:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Muslim population growth in India

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Delete POV-ridden article with pro-Hindutva POV-pushing. Pro-Hindutva POV-pushers always want to depict Muslim population as an evil in India. Do not provide any reliable source. The first paragraph describes general situation in South Asia and India. The rest of the information will be good in Demographics of India article, do not deserve for a separate encyclopedic article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 19:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Concerned Keep: I'm not emotionally involved in this issue (just saw it now), but the article /seems/ to me to be straight facts, with some references. It seems rather raw and could use some work, but I don't think there's any reason to delete it. I'd prefer to have some more reviewers, however, with more editing experience. --Revanche (talk) 01:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment "Muslim population growth" is not a national issue, issue is "population growth", not "Muslim population growth". Muslim population growth is an issue only to Hindu nationalists. The article is serving as a WP:SOAP for Hindu nationalists. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 07:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Well, I am a liberal person. Many liberal people suggest that Muslim population growth in India could be due to the lack of education among Muslims in India. There are several other reasons. Thus, this article is important. I also feel that this article should be improved. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 10:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Muslim pouplation is growing in India. And, that not pro-Hindutva POV-pushing, that a fact. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 10:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * "Muslim pouplation is growing in India" yes, growing. You are absolutely right, 100% truth. But Muslim population growth is not a separate phenomenon aside the general population explosion in India. Population growth is a phenomenon in India, and separating this particular religion in this issue is pro-Hindutva POV-pushing which the Hindu-nationalists do. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 11:34, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, in India, Muslim population is growing faster than the population of other communities. That's a fact. I respect Islam. Why is the Muslim population growing faster than the population of other communities? Some social scientists suggest that it is because of lack of education among Muslims in India. And, there are many other explanations. Thus, this article should not be deleted. In India, if you say any thing negative about Islamic community, they call you a ‘Hindu nationalist’. The so-called secularists in India don’t even understand the meaning of secularism. They try to appease Muslim community in the name of ‘secularism’ and don’t do a thing to improve their conditions. Why is the percentage of uneducated Muslims higher than the percentage of uneducated Hindus in India? Can any so-called secularists explain this to me? As I said earlier, there are reasons why the population of Muslims growing faster than the population of other communities. We should highlight those reasons instead of deleting the article. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 09:19, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The uneducated part of the population is growing faster, it consists of Hindu, Muslim and ther religions. Not only Muslim population, other population is also growing. It is POV to separate Muslims. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 11:28, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Delete - In addition to what Otolemur crassicaudatus wrote, I do not understand the point of this article, and it certainly needs a clean up. For instance, what relevancy does this statement have: "There are more Muslims in India than there are Sikhs, even though 85.3% of all Sikhs―about 20 million out of 24 million worldwide―reside in India.". The English is abysmal in the article as there is a no sense of flow. It seems all the statements are directly copy-pasted from an pro-Hindu website. I hope for a quick deletion of this article, or at least a clean-up and a proper redress of the purpose of the article. Also, I found funny: "India has conducted a decennial census since 1881, and has always tracked religious affiliation as part of the census, thus leaving little room for controversy about the underlying facts. The Census of India is generally seen as one of the more reliable regularly conducted censuses outside of the developed world."... no need to comment further, you can tell of the evident bias. The article needs a complete re-work (because it centres around Islamophobia) or delete it. I hope for the latter. --Waqas1987 (talk) 22:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Merge any useful content into Islam in India and Demographics of India.Bless sins (talk) 06:47, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. As noted above, merge any useful content into Islam in India and Demographics of India. Pahari Sahib   10:07, 18 January 2008 (GMT)
 * Delete title is a pov fork.  Yahel  Guhan  06:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the WikiProject Deletion sorting/Islam.   —Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 17:54, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge and Delete. this article is certainly not POV-pushing but this AfD seems to be. I think the information presented is useful, but doesn't need an own article and should be merged into Islam in India.
 * The article is certainly POV-pushing, and this vote is also in the same line. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 15:47, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Could you explain in what way it is POV pushing? Poeloq (talk) 16:07, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Care to my comments above, why I described this article POV-ridden. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:15, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete, any useful information can be mentioned in established articles like Demographics of India or Islam in India. The last thing needed is another fork, especially one as problematic as this.  ITAQALLAH   17:18, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


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