Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mustafa Haji Ismail Harun


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Seraphimblade Talk to me 07:27, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Mustafa Haji Ismail Harun

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This article is hard to understand. What it looks like, though, is a puff piece. WP:PEACOCK concerns are always fixable, but the real concern here is WP:RS. Can RS be located with community input? What I can state for certain, is that no person named Mustafe Ismail or Mustafe Haji is known in Norway in the slightest, yielding 0 hits in the nation's comprehensive media archive. On the other hands, there are considerable problems of how his name should be translated, and the article has already been through a disputed move. Unless the community has fruitful input, my opinion is that it's too indiscernable what makes him pass WP:GNG with WP:RS. Geschichte (talk) 14:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Islam, Somalia,  and Norway. Shellwood (talk) 14:58, 17 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep: This article meets WP:PSTS secondary source BBC News Somali, — YT of Sheikh Shibli;  QalasQalas (talk) 17:01, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * A single reliable source is not enough. Youtube is irrelevant. Geschichte (talk) 20:52, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * These WP:SECONDARY and WP:TERTIARY; Horseed Media, Hiiraan Online, MENAFN, and Sahafi Newspaper, may strengthen and reinforce the WP:RS, increasingly overall reliability of the WP:Article.
 * Horseed Media.
 * Hiiraan Online.
 * MENAFN.
 * Sahafi Newspaper.
 * QalasQalas (talk) 05:31, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not swayed in the slightest. One of the sources is a letter to the subject. Another is a "newspaper" hosted by Wordpress. We need some non-involved eyes on this, which I hope the closer/relister agrees on. Geschichte (talk) 10:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 02:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Covered by BBC and other highly regarded news outlets. Also quite well known in the Somali-Norwegian community. Batmanthe8th (talk) 19:11, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Can you demonstrate that he is well known in the Somali-Norwegian community? BBC does not cover this claim, and a person by that name is demonstrably utterly unknown in general Norwegian society. And what is he known for? This is wholly incomprehensible from the article. Something about wisdom. Wisdom in which outlets, forums or publications? Which independent sources have assessed these publications? Geschichte (talk) 20:52, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:30, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: So widely known, there is no coverage about him? The BBC article seems to be all there is. I don't see anything else. Oaktree b (talk) 13:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Horseed Media is a RS per the CiteHighlighter (green), but it's a small article. Oaktree b (talk) 13:01, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - promotional PR sheet - no RS support for wp:n. Llajwa (talk) 21:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete: BLP, Fails GNG and NBIO. Sources in article and BEFORE found nothing with WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS WP:RS. BLPs require strong sourcing. QalasQalas did an exhaustive BEFORE and none of the sources they found meet WP:IS WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth.  // Timothy :: talk  01:32, 9 February 2024 (UTC)


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