Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muzammil Haque


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The result was no consensus. Defaulting to keep, without prejudice against another nomination if the notability issues become clearer. – bradv  🍁  15:05, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Muzammil Haque

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Whereas the subject is possibly notable, the article is POV and says nothing about the subject. Ymblanter (talk) 14:11, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Ymblanter (talk) 14:11, 26 January 2020 (UTC)


 * delete I could find only one reliable source that mentions the subject which is not already in the article. Even that source mentions him in passing. But this source looks more like a press release by an organisation in his name. All I could find was non-reliable sources mentioning things named after the subject like school, hostel, and similar; but not about the subject himself. I also added a little content about the subject from a source already present in the article, which is about the death of subjec's brother. Such paid "people mourning after XYZ's death" obituaries/news are common in India. Overall, the subject doesn't have coverage, nor significant coverage in sources, only passing mentions that too mostly in non-reliable sources; thus failing general notability criteria. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:14, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete having schools named after you is not a sign of notability, otherwise we would have an article on John R. King (school secretary) and Paul K. Causino.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:20, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - having three public buildings named after a subject indicates the subject might be notable. I found some sources on Google Books that need to be examined. Bearian (talk) 21:27, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. I couldnt find any public places names after him in my search. Would tell me their names? It will help me with search, and maybe i would find something usable. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:52, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, see a youth hostel here and a primary school here. Bearian (talk) 21:56, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep There are government schools and hostels at universities named after him. At different places Mojammil, Mujammil, Mozammil has been written because of translation from Assamese to English. If one google using different spellings one finds many mentions.InspireTheWorld1 (talk) 16:41, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 14:48, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Weal delete whilst having stuff names after you might be a sign of notability, it may be a sign of having wealthy or influential parents, not of any inherent notability. We need RS about the subject.Slatersteven (talk) 16:01, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * He was an activist who succumbed to police bullets. Do you think government names hostel in public universities and media organisations gives away awards if someones parents are wealthy or when someone is notable enough then only awards and hostels are named after persons?!InspireTheWorld1 (talk) 18:56, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes I do (ohh and universities often name things after or at the behest of donors, as do hospitals and libraries), if they are notable we would have more then just things named after them.Slatersteven (talk) 15:42, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * in the light of the arguements provided by InspireTheWorld1, and Bearian: the local politicians usually use this tactic to appease/pacify public. Other organisations have similar intentions, including brandjacking. It is very common in India. The subject died in a protest, obviously someone or other is going to use the subject's name. But the fact that we cant find basic information about the subject, is an indication that they are not notable. If they were really a notable person, a lot more things would have been named after them. I dont like to say this, but the subject was 17 years old protestor in a protest, among many others. He was hit by a bullet, and died. He was not an organiser of that protest, or some influential leader. The subject fails general notability guidelines. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   17:42, 11 February 2020 (UTC) The citation I mentioned discusses about the subject and hence falls under the general notably rules of Wiki. InspireTheWorld1 (talk) 18:57, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * One can read this URL wherein the spelling is wrongly mentioned as Mojammil Haque. . If we use alternative spellings then lots of citation can be found. Even more in Assamese language.
 * , If you have access to Assamese language sources then you can present them as well. It is not that only English sources can be accepted. I understand that the regional language is Assamese so it is expected.  D Big X ray ᗙ  13:03, 13 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment. I can understand and write Assamese. Via google search in Assamese by typing মোজাম্মিল হক অসম (Muzammil Haque Assam) and শ্বহীদ মোজাম্মিল হক (martyr Muzammil Haque) I found coverages of his death anniversary these are not enough for passing WP:GNG. He is considered as first martyr of Assamese Language Movement. So the article can be redirected to Assamese Language Movement.S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 14:13, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * He was a martyr of Madhaym movement and not language movement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by InspireTheWorld1 (talk • contribs) 17:13, 13 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep, I can't understand Assamese but one of the "recognition" he has is through the name of an award of the Assam Sahitya Sabha is a major literary institution. So if we are going to weigh on the merit of the argument of whether having public institutions named after yourself as sign of notability. He might just pass. Tayi Arajakate (talk) 20:51, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:ANYBIO makes not mention of "having an award named after them". At best this is an argument to have a brief mention about him in any section about the award at Assam Sahitya Sabha. When I start to see "variant spellings" being used I have to ask "how do we know its the same person"? Slatersteven (talk) 12:25, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Seconded with Slatersteven. We can add a little about the subject in Assam Sahitya Sabha appropriately. (I also fixed 's comment/signature in this edit.) —usernamekiran (talk) 17:24, 15 February 2020 (UTC)


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