Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muzeum Miniaturowej Sztuki Profesjonalnej Henryk Jan Dominiak in Tychy


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The result was delete. When disregarding SPAs and PAs, consensus is clear. Star  Mississippi  15:24, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Muzeum Miniaturowej Sztuki Profesjonalnej Henryk Jan Dominiak in Tychy

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This article has no independent references and I am unable to find online sources to establish notability. It is also promotional. The same editor has also created articles on the museum in 17 other languages (the de article is now a draft). TSventon (talk) 09:01, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Museums and libraries and Poland. Shellwood (talk) 09:23, 28 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete as promotional and non-notable. Single editor, new, virtually an SPA, all the many citations primary to the museum collection. Obviously a lot of work and care has gone into the 18 Wikipedia pages, as presumably into the museum, but this is advertising not notability. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This museum has 3 decorations, several awards and many European and Polish certificates for high quality, including ISO 9001. It mainly collects miniature art, many of which are the smallest in the world. The museum is under the authority of the Minister of Culture and National Heritage. Krzysiek2224 (talk) 16:09, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Dominiak Henryk Jan, Biografia Indeks według kodu Grup Zawodowych: Sztuka, kultura i muzea, [w:] Britishpedia, Encyklopedia Osobistości Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej, BPH – British Publishing House Ltd, t. III., 2017, s. 245. ISBN 978-1-912100-36-1.
 * Dominiak Henryk Jan, Biografia Indeks według kodu Grup Zawodowych: Sztuka, kultura i muzea, [w:] Britishpedia, Encyklopedia Osobistości Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej, BPH – British Publishing House Ltd, t. VII., 2021, s. 251. ISBN 978-1-912100-46-0. Krzysiek2224 (talk) 16:19, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You can read about this museum in the printed encyclopedia. Krzysiek2224 (talk) 16:22, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It is the smallest museum in the world. Its exhibition area is 6.15 m² Krzysiek2224 (talk) 17:24, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Britishpedia is a scam, a type of "pay us and we will include an entry of about you in our self-published fakepedia" . Being listed in it is more like a sign of desperation/poor judgement I am afraid. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  08:16, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Delete zero hits in Jstor and GScholar.Oaktree b (talk) 17:53, 28 May 2022 (UTC)


 * The Miracle on the Vistula - the smallest picture in the world Krzysiek2224 (talk) 17:55, 28 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Weak delete. Unless we treat all museums as automatically notable, there is little to help with this. The article has refs, but they are self-published or otherwise unreliable, or fail WP:SIGCOV. The only reliably-looking reference used on pl wiki is a local radio station article - but it's just a short press release . My BEFORE did find two short pieces/interviews in a local newspaper Dziennik Zachodni and a local news portal that probably are not paid for, but I do think that it's not enough. The only indepedent coverage of he museum is found in the last piece, and it's just two short sentences (that the museum was founded in 2013 and is considered the smallest museum in the world, the last claim is unreferenced and presumably is a form of markting of this museum). If a larger, mainsream newspaper would cover this entity and back up this claim, I'd say week keep, but as it is, I am afraid Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  08:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus, it is useful to have a Polish speaker look into this. TSventon (talk) 08:41, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * and the Polish Tourist Organization? - please read carefully and do not accuse anyone of fraud Krzysiek2224 (talk) 08:55, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Entry in a government catalogue of museums is irrelevant. It just reprints museum's self-description, and is legally required to list all entities with a museum classification. They can do it, but WP:NOTACATALOGUE. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:39, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Don't mislead anyone or slander others. Krzysiek2224 (talk) 10:17, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You wrote 'Decorations like interest, niche' - decorations from the Minister of Culture and National Heritage of Poland and Provincial Authorities - you call them 'niche'. Krzysiek2224 (talk) 10:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You wrote Britishpedia is a scam - who are you, that you insult everyone so much. Krzysiek2224 (talk) 10:33, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It appears to be a pay-to-play publisher, hence not a reliable source. Oaktree b (talk) 13:04, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Not delete. A famous museum with interesting miniature art. Alicja2891 (talk) 18:03, 1 June 2022 (UTC) — Alicja2891 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment. Actually it is the smallest museum in the world. Its exhibition area is 6.15 m2. This is not true. This soure claims over 20m2, and google shows plenty of other mueums making the same claim, one even in a phone booth so obviously smaller. It's just misleading marketing. I listed this at pl wiki deletion (pl:Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/artykuły/2022:05:30:Muzeum Miniaturowej Sztuki Profesjonalnej Henryk Jan Dominiak w Tychach) but pl wiki is more inclusive and I can imagine that entry being kept due to random "all museums are notable" arguments, just like we used to say here ~10 years ago, in the early days of interpreting WP:GNG... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:46, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I just saw that you deleted this post about `` Its exhibition area is 6.15 m2 '' and as you call them all scammers. Krzysiek2224 (talk) 10:10, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment The French wiki article uses mostly primary sources (the museum's website) and almost appears as a catalogue. They list the various "awards" won, but I'm not sure which are notable. Rest of the sourcing is mentions in passing. Oaktree b (talk) 13:06, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * https://www.gov.pl/web/gov/szukaj?query=Muzeum+Miniaturowej+Sztuki+Profesjonalnej+Henryk+Jan+Dominiak+w+Tychach&category=kategoria&page=1&size=25
 * It is a museum subordinate to the Minister of Culture and National Heritage Krzysiek2224 (talk) 13:33, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Here is a link to the  Biblioteka Śląska w Katowicach , where there is the third edition of Britishpedia -
 * Encyclopedia of Polish People's Personalities: BPH-British Publishing House. 3 - entry Dominiak Henryk Jan, Biography Index according to the code of Occupational Groups: Art, culture and museums.
 * https://integro.bs.katowice.pl/search/description?q=%22encyklopedia+osobisto%C5%9Bci+rzeczypospolitej+polskiej+%3A+a+bph-british+publishing+house+publication.+3%22&index=1 Krzysiek2224 (talk) 17:07, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You've already shared this. The government link isn't a secondary source and we already explained why the Britishpedia isnt' reliable either. You need coverage in a large national newspaper like the New York Times or a magazine or something, unconnected to the museum. I did a search using the Polish names, we only get 6 pages total in google, most are mirrors of the wiki article, a French search only has 2 pages total, none of which are usable here. Nothing in Gbooks or in Gnews. Not notable for our purposes here. Oaktree b (talk) 20:16, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * then I gave 3 sources
 * Western Journal - Dziennik Zachodni Krzysiek2224 (talk) 21:08, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Dziennik Zachodni - 3 Krzysiek2224 (talk) 21:13, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * and Gazeta Wyborcza Krzysiek2224 (talk) 21:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I added links The Polish Tourist Organization - this is the most important information in Poland about some object worth attention - they check it very carefully.
 * https://www.polska.travel/pl/muzea/muzeum-miniaturowej-sztuki-profesjonalnej-henryk-jan-dominiak-w-tychach Krzysiek2224 (talk) 05:21, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Not delete. There are very interesting collections in this museum. Made with interesting techniques. It is probably the only museum of this type in Poland and Europe which, as the name suggests, collects miniature art with dimensions counted in millimeters. ASUS668 (talk) 9:13, 2 June 2022 (UTC) — ASUS668 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


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