Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muzi Dlamini


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The result was Keep (non-admin closure) Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 15:13, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Muzi Dlamini

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Once this person is disambiguated form the comedian of the same name, the only results on a Google search are to WP:ROUTINE mentions on statistics pages. I was not able to find any actual non-trivial discussion of the subject in reliable, independent, verifiable sources. While he may meet the notability guidelines at WP:NFOOTY, it looks like he fails the notability policy requirements of WP:GNG. KDS 4444 Talk  03:48, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn by nominator in light of below.  KDS 4444  Talk  19:19, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - As mentioned, he fulfills WP:NFOOTY. MbahGondrong (talk) 08:37, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Struway2 (talk) 12:57, 14 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. While I agree that it doesn't help that name-wise, Muzi Dlamini appears to be the Swazi equivalent of John Smith, it seems odd that nominator could only come up with statistical stuff. There are any amount of routine match reports, scoring goals in important games (e.g. an agency piece carried worldwide reports his opening the scoring as his team eliminated a South African team from this season's CAF Confed Cup, the first time a Swazi team had ever done so) as well as just name-checks where he didn't do much, but that's what you always get with sportspeople. And there are enough bits to take coverage beyond the routine, e.g. from 2010, individual praise from the country's Sports Minister for the then 16-year-old Dlamini,
 * Minister of Sports, Culture and Youth Affairs Hlobsile Ndlovu rightly praised youngster Muzi Dlamini as he scored three of the seven goals that were by his team to beat Hhohho Super League side Supersport 7-nil and send them out of the competition. The Minister pointed out that football is coming home if the country has youngsters such as Muzi who can score such wondrous goals.
 * the Times of Swaziland features him as one of four potential matchwinners in the 2010 Swazi Cup semifinals;
 * from 2013, the Swazi Observer reports detail of contractual difficulties the player had with his club (the general manager is also called Dlamini, which is confusing, and the player is mainly referred to by his nickname, Mzoro);
 * from 2014, an attack of chickenpox (!)
 * etc, etc. While none of this is a two-page spread in the New York Times, it does amount to ongoing coverage of the player in the national press of his country (and to some extent outside it) over at least the last five years, and illustrates that in Mr Dlamini's case, the presumption of notability afforded to senior international footballers by the subject-specific guideline is justified. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:57, 14 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep - Clearly meets WP:NFOOTY as a Swazi international. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:03, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - meets WP:NFOOTBALL, and getting there with WP:GNG thanks to Struway2's research above. GiantSnowman 11:52, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - Meets WP:NFOOTBALL. Nfitz (talk) 22:17, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
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