Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/My Opera Community (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   K e ep. Tiptoety talk 06:14, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

My Opera Community
AfDs for this article: 
 * ( [ delete] ) – (View AfD) (View log)

Second nomination. I believe that the issues were inadequately discussed in the previous discussion:
 * Having no significant coverage in reliable sources except for one eWeek article, the subject of the article fails the notability guidelines of WP:WEB, particularly the mandate for "multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself".
 * A response by Vetler in the previous discussion is little more than WP:ILIKEIT and WP:BIGNUMBER, which are not notability arguments. The "endorsement" of My Opera Community by Tim Berners-Lee as pointed out by Kjetil Kjernsmo is likewise irrelevant.
 * WP:OUTCOMES states, "Communities, message boards and blogs are generally not notable". The My Opera Community therefore requires a greater than usual burden of proof to establish notability, and this burden is obviously not met.
 * All of the sources cited, except for the aforementioned one, are from the official Opera and My Opera websites, which are not reliable sources.
 * Comment: They are reliable enough in this context, but not 3rd party. There's a difference between these notions. VG &#x260E; 19:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * In light of the above, the article is mostly fancruft. The subject maybe deserves brief treatment in Opera (web browser), but not its own article. —J.P. Doul (TALK/CONTRIBUTIONS) 20:39, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  18:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  18:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep A google search brings up 6.3 million results. There also seem to be articles on it.   Finding these articles only took a few minutes. I am sure that plenty of sources can be found with more looking. Cleanup is not a reason to delete.  Captain   panda  22:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I have added a few sources and the website is used as a socialnetworking site for a heap of people The article does need a clean up though, but not a deletion. Fosnez (talk) 02:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Per Captain panda and Fosnez. --  Banj e  b oi    22:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.