Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mykonos windmills


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The result was keep. A bit on the weak side as we don't have a clear indication of WP:GNG notability yet. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:49, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Mykonos windmills

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There are windmills on Mykonos but there is nothing special about them. There are identical windmills all over Greece. No notability. Mccapra (talk) 08:40, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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Redirect to Mykonos, where there is landmark section.Djflem (talk) 09:22, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - There are actually a lot of sources that mention the Windmills of Mykonos are important/iconic (e.g., this). However, almost none of them then go on to describe anything about them. I found one apparently-reliable source I found that spends a paragraph discussing them is this. Another gives a lot more coverage and does appear at least to be a WP:NEWSORG based on the information available about their editorial team. I'm inclined to give this the benefit of the doubt as a lot of people writing for reliable sources seem to think they are "famous" or "iconic" for some reason. FOARP (talk) 09:32, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment There are indeed quite a few mentions of them but they're basically all in promotional tourist literature because Mykonos has decided to promote itself as 'the island of windmills'. None of these refs really says anything substantive about them and indeed there is essentially nothing encyclopeadic about them to say. We might equally well have an article on Bridges on Skye or Pubs on Jura if tourist offices decided to take some nice pics and make a feature out of them.  The windmills of Mykonos are no more distinctive than the pubs of Jura or the bridges of Skye. Mccapra (talk) 12:59, 3 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - Fodors calls them "famous." Greek Reporter gives significant coverage to them as well as calling them a "landmark."   Mother Nature Network and The Independent call them "iconic.".  I'll go by what independent reliable sources call them. Oakshade (talk) 03:53, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment The sources above while perhaps not satisfying GNG are enough to strongly imply the windmills satisfy WP:NBUILD due to their historic and economic importance. Per WP:NEXIST we therefore shouldn't contemplate deletion without at least looking for Greek language sources, which it appears no one has done yet. Pontificalibus 09:42, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - Mykonos is famous for its windmills. It is appropriate that we have an article on them. Needing improvement is not a reason to delete any article. Mjroots (talk) 19:00, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. The photo at right, which was/is included in the article, establishes significance clearly. These are obviously historic.  Probably the cluster pictured, as well as other clusters or individual windmills, could be individually notable.  Certainly the collection is. --Doncram (talk) 03:52, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a very clear keep. Plenty of sources available in print and online that attest to their notability. It doesn't matter whether the island "branding" decided to promote the things or what, but the clear fact is that they're notable and discussed in different media. If they're iconic, and treated as such as evidenced by reliable sources, then they pass WP:GNG; we're not to judge any motive behind their fame. They've been there for centuries, might I add...perhaps the article should reflect that better. Best, PK650 (talk) 22:09, 9 February 2020 (UTC)


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