Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Néstor Barron


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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 00:13, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Néstor Barron

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Tagged with multiple issues since January, promotional (hugely so) and almost certainly COI, no relaible independent sources and none in Google either, just PR and similar non-RS. Guy (Help!) 23:26, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete, promo, refs don't support notability. Szzuk (talk) 18:21, 18 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Coment - Hi, Guy. I am not experienced on edition of articles at Wikipedia, and even my english it's no so good. I really would estimate so much if you were saying to me, point by point, the problems with this article. If you do that, I'm sure that I can improve the article in the way Wikipedia wants. Barron is a really well known artist in my country (Argentina), and I wouldn't want to think that for this reason an article in English language it's worthless and must be deleted. Please tell me what's needed and I'll give you the answers for every point of discussion (sources, doubts about promo's accusations, etcetera). Help me, please. I want for your answer, thanks so much. Majofontaner (talk) 17:19, 20 November 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Majofontaner (talk • contribs) 17:05, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - This article is promotional in tone and the subject does not meet the notability criteria for musicians at WP:MUSICBIO or for writers/poets at WP:AUTHOR. -  t u coxn \talk 20:43, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Coment,  t u coxn , why do you think that this person is not important? Check out, for instance, this article from TELAM, the Argentina's official news agency: https://issuu.com/suplementostelam/docs/slt222?workerAddress=ec2-54-159-254-162.compute-1.amazonaws.com, or this other from an important argentinian newspaper: http://www.diariopopular.com.ar/notas/245427-hoy-se-escribe-pensando-internet, or this other: https://www.pagina12.com.ar/75570-la-poesia-siempre-interroga-a-la-sociedad-y-a-la-politica . One of his books have a prologue by Osvaldo Bayer, a well-known intellectual recognized all along South America and in Europe. Another of his books have a prologue by Liam Clancy, legend of Irish traditional music. And so on. Do you think that he's not an important person just because he don't write in english? One more time: please let me improve this article according Wikipedia criteria, and please help me with the job because I don't know so much about it. Majofontaner (talk) 15:36, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Majofontaner, You need to show that this person is notable according to the Wikipedia definition, that is, that he has "received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject."WP:BASIC Then, for authors and musicians, there are specific requirements, WP:AUTHOR and WP:MUSICBIO. For authors, there need to be "multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." The Suplemento Literario is an example of that. It should be included as a reference in the article. For musicians too, it has to be shown that he "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." This does not include interviews where the person just talks about themselves, so the Diario Popular is not useful. It is not useful that his books have prologues by notable people. It would be better to find reviews of his books by people who are not connected to him, and include them as references in the article. Also, the article needs references from reliable sources WP:RELIABLE for all the information. IMDB is not a reliable source. I do not find his name at all in either of the Poètes à Paris references, so they are not useful. I am not sure whether the archived Guy Allix page would be considered either reliable or independent. Some of the External Links might be useful as references, though the articles in La Nacion do not seem to have much about Barron at all, they just mention him in a sentence, which means it is not significant coverage. I hope this helps. RebeccaGreen (talk) 05:31, 24 November 2018 (UTC)


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