Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NCH Software


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Withdrawn by the nominator in absence of any opposing verdict. Codename Lisa (talk) 03:57, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

NCH Software

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Hi. I motion the article to be deleted for the following reasons: Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 02:39, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) It fails to establish its notability as required by Notability (company) by providing evidence of significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. I used both Google and Bing but the only direct (i.e. not circumstantial) secondary source I could find was this: http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/NCH-Software-Reviews-E296596.htm
 * 2) It chiefly consists of one large product list section, violating WP:NOTCATALOG. The only other sections are "References", "External links" and "Criticism". The latter extensively uses self-published sources and potentially unreliable sources; I feel it is a feeble attempt in bombardment than to establish notability.
 * Keep Here are three sources I found about the subject: According to the article, "Scott A. May is a local computer consultant and has been writing PC Info since 1989." PC Info is a technology column published by the Columbia Daily Tribune.  This article begins with the following paragraphs: "En esta nueva sección hablaremos de las mejores empresas de desarrollo de aplicaciones, centrándonos en sus servicios no comerciales. En este estreno hablaremos de NCH Software una empresa que desde Canberra nos ha ofrecido muy buenas aplicaciones. Destacaremos sus herramientas más populares, su aplicación destacable y por supuesto, hablaremos un poco de la historia de la compañía. La Historia de NCH Software NCH Software fue fundada en el año 1993 en Canberra, Australia y en el año 2008 abre su oficina en Colorado Estados Unidos de Norte América." The article then discusses four of NCH Software's products: WavePad, Prism, Express Invoice, and Zulu. NeoTeo is published by the Spanish newspaper ABC. A NeoTeo article was republished at http://www.abc.es/20120202/tecnologia/abci-juegos-machine-201202020939.html and the ABC.es logo is on each page of NeoTeo.  According to https://www.facebook.com/NeoTeo/info, "NeoTeo es una revista online sobre Tecnología" (NeoTeo is an online magazine about technology).  See more articles from journalist Edgardo Fernandez at http://www.neoteo.com/author/edgardo-fernandez/.  The article's first paragraph says, "NCH Software, a provider of audio, video, business, and telephony/VoIP tools and utilities, announced the release of its latest ‘IVM’, an interactive telephone system that has simplified interactive voice response (IVR)."  This article provides detailed coverage about NCH Software's IVM product.  According to http://www.tmcnet.com/tmcnet/columnists/columnist.aspx?id=100118&nm=Jayashree%20Adkoli, "Jayashree Adkoli is a professional freelance writer covering technology."  According to http://www.tmcnet.com/tmcnet/tmchome.htm, TMC is an "educational and news resource in the communications and technology fields - including VoIP, IP communications, telecom, contact centers, and CRM" that reaches in "excess of 3.5 million readers worldwide each month".  http://www.tmcnet.com/tmcnet/columnists/ has a list of TMCnet's editors and contributors. The editorial staff indicates that the source has received the editorial oversight necessary to pass Identifying reliable sources.  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow NCH Software to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 08:31, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:19, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:19, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:19, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep This article currently has twenty entries under references, the article lists 62 products, and the topic has been in business since 1993, which is almost pre-internet, which shows great longevity.  A cautionary note is that the topic is not listed at investing.businessweek.com.  As indicated by WP:BEFORE, I used the Find sources template to look at Google books, and found promising hits.  Here is one, where the quote is from the snippet:
 * Concerns about individual sections of the article are matters of ordinary editing. Unscintillating (talk) 18:14, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Concerns about individual sections of the article are matters of ordinary editing. Unscintillating (talk) 18:14, 3 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 15:15, 9 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep: Cunard's and Unscintillating's arguments for WP:Notability are pretty convincing. Also the WP:NOTCATALOG argument is weak, I quote the policy "An article should not include product pricing or availability information unless there is a source and a justified reason for the mention..." in no way is this the case with the article. WP:SPS, Potentially unreliable sources, WP:Bombardment arguments: does not affect notability, as that has already been demonstrated; it merely means the article could be improved. Also the criticisms section makes the article especially notable, as it proves ample warnings. --Mrjulesd (talk) 18:14, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.