Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NWOMAGM


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Core desat 08:06, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

NWOMAGM

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Made-up genre. Most of the bands listed fall into the post-hardcore and screamo designation; even if this genre existed, it would have totally different bands in it (We Are the Fury, or even The Darkness). Chubbles 05:40, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Original research and in all likelyhood is WP:MADEUP. — Save_Us _ 229  05:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: Made up, OR, NN. - Rjd0060 06:38, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe it to be a legit genre. A lot of recent bands forming are very reminscient of Glam metal but at the same time it is quite easy to tell they are from the modern music scene. There a lot of new bands I can add to this but it will take a while, those where just bands I got off the top of my head (and they can be discussed to be included or not). I am new to wikipedia so I can understand if the article needs work. It is late and I do not feel like finishing it right now so I shall do so tomarrow. I'm open to suggestions for improvment but not for deltion. I feel it is a satisfactory term for a new (new in the broadest sense possilbe) style of music that is emerging. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trigun12789 (talk • contribs) 07:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * What you don't seem to understand is, you don't get to pick the name of the genre, or the bands that go in it. The genre first has to be defined, usually by rock critics but sometimes by musicians themselves, and then people have to publish about it...and then it gets a Wikipedia article. You can't just make up a new name for an aggregate of bands and call it a legitimate genre. Chubbles 07:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I have removed all the additions I could find of this term in existing articles. Please do not restore them unless the article survives AfD. Chubbles 07:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * First I would like to thank you for your help. I am greatful for your advise I kindly asked for. Second, I am a musician and I consider my band part of this. We don't have a wikipedia site yet but I will make one for it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trigun12789 (talk • contribs) 07:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest avoiding doing that unless your band can meet the guidelines in WP:MUSIC, or we'll be back here again (if it's not speedy deleted). Tony Fox (arf!) 21:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, no Google hits. Mushroom (Talk) 08:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * So if I make a legit page for my band, and talk about this genre on our myspace and other sites so I can refence it then it will be allowed on here? --Trigun12789 08:36, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No, because first of all, your band is unlikely to be notable, and MySpace and similar sites are not reliable sources.  E LIMINATOR JR  08:59, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Eventhough Google is often not sufficient as a reliable source, the fact that there are zero hits on it is proof enough that this isn't notable and 100% made up. ~ | twsx | talkcont | 09:50, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia does not publish articles on things made-up one day or original thought. Seraphim  Whipp 13:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Original research. Hal peridol 13:40, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong delete, snowball delete - fails WP:V and WP:NOR 100%. Now this is a lot different from the IDM AfD, as that was not just WP:MADEUP one day.-h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 13:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete I'm sorry but all you have to do now to create a genre is make up initials? I mean Pink Spiders and Aiden sound NOTHING alike (the former is a neo-new wave Cars rip-off (who's most recent album was produced by Ric Ocasek) and the latter is a screamo as screamo comes). This is a futile attempt for someone not to get beat up for listening to emo...oy Doc Strange 14:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The initials are nothing new to genres . Aiden is not screamo listin to their newest cd, and most of those bands would not fall under the catagory of emo. Why would I create a new genre glorifying glam metal just to not say I listin to emo. Everybody elses comments I can acctually understand, but that last one is somthing I would expect to see on a forum with a bunch of preteen adolescents. --Trigun12789 15:45, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Do not make personal attacks. — Save_Us _ 229  19:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I certainly know that initials are not new to genres, but this isn't notable. I what i'm trying to say is that two of the listed examples for the page of this allegedy genre don't even sound alike (really, Aiden sounds NOTHING like Pink Spiders). It's awful ironic that you are attacking me and you yourself fail to make a good explaination for why this page with no reliable source and any mentions of anywhere, should stay (the spelling errors and personal attack don't help either). In fact this page deletable as well via WP:NFT, WP:MUSIC and WP:OR. Doc Strange 17:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete as a neologism that is not widely enough used to be notable. Tony Fox (arf!) 21:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Original research and seems to be possibly made up in school one day ff m  00:36, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per all above. The traditional way of creating a new genre is to have it described in reliable sources first, then write about it here, rather than the other way around. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:03, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


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