Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nader bell


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The result was   delete. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  23:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Nader bell

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Seems to be an uncommon term. Fails google test. Samuell Lift me up or put me down 22:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Google book search does not show any instances of "Nader bell" as a name for audible backup signals. Google News archive shows only one reference, presently in the article, calling it the "Nader bell." An article on audible backup signals might be appropriate. They apparently became common in the 1980's to reduce the chance of backing over someone. We do not have encyclopedia articles to mirror every single use of a term in one newspaper. But an article about the term itself, or an article about backup signals with this title is inappropriate. Audible backup signal is probably the correct title for an article about the things, and there is no indication that Nader invented them or that his work led to the requirement for them, but maybe someone can find such a reference to be included in an Audible backup signal article. Also, I have heard many annoying "beeps" but not one single "bell" to indicate something is backing up. Edison (talk) 23:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as neologism; other than one use of the phrase in the cited St. Petersburg Times article, all other ghits seem to be mirrors of Nader bell or Beep_(sound), where the subject of an Audible backup signal can be adequately covered unless/until the section there becomes big enough to be spun off into its own article per WP:Summary Style. Baileypalblue (talk) 00:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment The technical term turns out to be "reverse signal alarm" and the applicable OSHA regulation is 29 C.F.R. Sec. 1926.602(b)(4)(i) .  I think a great article could be written about the history of the thing that beeps when a vehicle is backing up.  "Nader bell" has to be as dumb a name as I've ever heard made up.  Not only do bells not make a beeping sound, the equipment was being used fifty years ago in Corps of Engineers projects, several years before Ralph Nader wrote about the Corvair.  The OSHA requirement dates from about 1974.  Mandsford (talk) 20:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - as a term that has not really entered common usage -- Whpq (talk) 10:37, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


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