Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nadia Cavalera


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus. After three relists, it doesn't seem that consensus is getting any closer... Randykitty (talk) 17:39, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Nadia Cavalera

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I couldn't verify that she mets WP:AUTHOR or WP:GNG. She has articles in two other languages, but neither of them could help establish her notability. It has been tagged for notability for over 6 years, unresolved. Boleyn (talk) 20:15, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment She has been the editor of Bollettario and she has been written about as an author  but mostly in Italian. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 22:36, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete First, the English article appears to be a near-exact translation of the Italian article, which means that there is no more information about her in her "native" WP. The references are weak. Of the ones above, the Google books reference is her name on a single page of a book. The second reference is from a local newspaper and is about her. I don't know the reputation or reach of SenzaColonne News, but my feeling is that it alone doesn't establish notability. I tried doing searches in some of the national newspapers (La Repubblica, Corriere della Sera) and got zero on her name. If there is an interest in her I would suggest beefing up the Italian article since there are more likely to be searches for her directed there. 50.1.85.108 (talk) 00:52, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete An not notable person.User:Lucifero4
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:43, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Keep although I agree this unsourced article is in bad shape. I found about five references suggesting that she's notable, added them, but they were in Italian, and I'm hesitant to rely on the Google translate facility, but regardless, I think she's notable, as the sources appear to be from news, TV, magazine articles, that is, WP:RS, with Cavalera prominently mentioned. I didn't cut any of the unsourced material just because it's been around a while in Wikipedia, and my sense is it is probably true (one of the statements I could reference).--Tomwsulcer (talk) 02:14, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 08:40, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ‑Scottywong | express _ 22:22, 19 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete as can't find any evidence of notability. – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  22:46, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Many sources in this Italian poetry magazine.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 01:04, 20 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. An active but not notable poet. For notability we need something more than just evidence that she's published and participated in her city's art scene. We need documentation from secondary sources, like reviews of her work, that her work has been influential, or at least noticed. The sources provided just aren't enough, and I haven't found any others. Assessing notability with a foreign-language subject is difficult, but I think this is the right choice. Lagrange613 04:34, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep I do read Italian and can say that from the information that I can see (and I did add some links) she is notable not only as a poet but as an activist in what in Italy is called the literary avantguard. The journal that she founded (which is in print, but also appears recently online) is held in libraries in the US, Germany, UK, Spain, and of course Italy. It IS indeed hard to find good sources here in the US (the interest in culture and poetry here is much below that of some other countries), and in my experience the articles in the Italian WP are not at all rigorously sourced. I will work some more on this article over the next day or so. LaMona (talk) 13:29, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I have added links and filled in some information on the importance of the journal she founded and also the literary prize. I may be able to add one or two more bits of information about her, but I think that the article will remain the length it is unless we move deeply into the area of literary criticism (which is not my forte). Take another look, please. LaMona (talk) 14:16, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you haven't changed my mind. Your edits seem mostly to have sourced existing statements and improved the wording. You improved the article, but you haven't done anything to convince me the topic is notable. Lagrange613 20:43, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
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