Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nafisa Kamal (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There is realistically no consensus to delete this given the tainted nature of the now-globally-locked nominator and also potential issues with some of the other participation. Equally, the significant edits by seem to be improvements but have not been sufficiently commented on to wring an actual consensus to keep out of this discussion either. I very much agree with the position that if there are further good-faith concerns about this article, it would be far healthier to cleanly renominate it, otherwise we default to keeping the content. ~ mazca  talk 14:55, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Nafisa Kamal
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The majority of the sources refer to her as Mustafa Kamal (politician) daughter and talking about her team players rather than her. Notability is not inherited. She is the chairman of Comilla Victorians and director of Lotus kamal group which are owned by her father Kamal. Chairman of a franchise and director of a company does not make anyone notable where's it is not a permanent place (changeable). If she is the first female cricket organizer in Bangladesh, then there should be any award or officially recognition by bd cricket board or government to claim her notability. If anything like this please do share. She is highlighted when Victorians win any matches and trophy. If you look at the sources maximum sources : 1.refer to she is a daughter of Kamal. 2. Maximum sources about comilla victorians players related. 3.some are unrelated with topic just like asking vote for her father etc. 4.she is highlighted in the news as the chairman of Comilla Victorians nothing else, when victorians win any matches or trophy.

Failed WP:SIGCOV, WP:ANYBIO Bbemoni (talk) 07:29, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Bbemoni (talk) 07:29, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Bbemoni (talk) 07:29, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Bbemoni (talk) 07:29, 10 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. I agree with the above comments. She's not yet been recognized as Notable. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 06:10, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete: Agree with Bbemoni. Just to add, I think WP:NOTINHERITED applies here too. Lunar Clock (talk) 12:42, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Suggestion: This is the 2nd nomination still as non-notable when it was first nominated. Maximum content added by single user, might be COI. Protect this article from re-create, maybe there have chance to re-create this article in future— Bbemoni (talk) 15:43, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't see where the first nomination was about notability. The article was vandalized by someone who did not want the subject to have a Wikipedia article. It was a snow keep. Missvain (talk) 03:52, 12 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep She passes general notability guidelines. These articles profile her and or are about her work in cricket, not her father. Including three interviews in three of the biggest news publications in Bangladesh, and India's most popular cricket publication:
 * আলোচনার কেন্দ্রবিন্দুতে নাফিসা কামাল from Jagonews24.com
 * "‘Mashrafe is a great leader, obviously I wanted him at Comilla’" from Dhaka Tribune
 * "Want to be at the top level of cricket: Nafisa Kamal" from NTV
 * "Revenue sharing should come into BPL - Nafisa Kamal" from CricBuzz
 * I will drop them on the talk page of her article for improvement. Missvain (talk) 03:48, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * comment : first three sources are already in the article. Sources :

1- about Comilla victorians jersy unveiled and players related 2- about Mashrafe and shakib 3- this is also players related. 4- you can search others franchise owners statement on revenue shareing.that doesn’t means others are also notable. And maximum sources are refer to she is a daughter of Mustafa Kamal and players related nothing else WP:NOTINHERITED. She is just mention in the news as a chairman of Comilla Victorians when victorians win any matches or trophy. Briefly describe about sources: 1- jersy unveiled of commilla victorians 2- unrelated- asking vote for her father 3- talked about players Mashrafe and Shakib 4- interview about players and mention that she is daughter of Mustafa kamal 5- nothing about nafisa kamal only about Comilla Victorians winning trophy 6- dead source 7 and 8- unrelated- about her father that he became member of cabinet 9 - personal website about she is director of company 10- unrelated- about her father. 11 and 12- about comilla victorians winning trophy 13 -unrelated and passing mention 14 and 15- unreliable sources just repeating previous news If she receive any award or recognition officially by government or cricket board as a "first female cricket organizer" in future then she will be notable till now there is nothing to claim her notable Failed WP:SIGCOV, WP:ANYBIO —Bbemoni (talk) 06:38, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination, not a renowned organiser WP:SALT WP:TOOSOON Pokai (talk) 09:25, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note Nominator is now glocked. We have recently learnt that a number of paid sock farms are active from Bangladesh. I'm investigating further. The user probably belongs to Hafiz ansi and Mrittika.mehjabin (also the nominator of first afd) farm but it is hard to tell because there are so many of them. ~ Nahid Talk 19:01, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Thanks . It appears that this article has been "victim" of numerous deletion attempts due to whatever reason. I hope the reviewers will take that into consideration. Missvain (talk) 20:05, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:32, 14 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete — Non-notable entrepreneur,businessman . except daughter of a politician and ceo of a franchise, nothing outside found to support her notability . Fail GNG Ngrewal1 (talk) 20:57, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * well, this is strange. if you look at the history of this AFD, you will see that delete comment made under User:Pokai was from a proxy IP address then the sign was added later from another proxy after the first one got blocked. Now, the comment of User:Ngrewal1 is also made from the same proxy range and signed in the same way. ~ Nahid Talk 00:24, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * If you are concerned about socking, please report it to Sockpuppet investigations, if you haven't already, ASAP. Thank you. Missvain (talk) 18:25, 17 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment to reviewer – I highly suggest you close this as no consensus RATHER than just relisting it/deleting it/keeping it – and if folks want to see it re-nominated they can do so. My rationale for this request is because 1) The nominator's account has been globally locked due to socking behavior and 2) The first time the article was nominated for deletion it was speedy kept due to it being a vandalization nomination. Thanks for your consideration. Missvain (talk) 18:30, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have overhauled the article to reflect the reliable secondary sources that feature the subject significantly. Thanks. Missvain (talk) 19:52, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep — Convinced by Missvain.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 10:27, 18 January 2020 (UTC)


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