Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naira Marley


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The result was delete. Consensus is that NMUSIC is not met, and although there are many sources, they are all about one single event (BLP1E) 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 16:12, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Naira Marley

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Fail to see how this musician is notable, almost all the sources are primary or are mainly about his controversy. No chart placings, no official signings, fails WP:NMUSIC Ceethekreator (talk) 19:50, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 19:50, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 19:50, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator (talk) 19:50, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment. Has he placed on the Nigerian or British music charts? Eastmain (talk • contribs) 22:03, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Have you found any sources that support that? Ceethekreator (talk) 12:32, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * he's never been anywhere near charting in the UK, and we're not sure if there is an official Nigerian chart. Richard3120 (talk) 20:30, 19 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. The subject fails WP:MUSICBIO. The subject is an up-and-coming artist who is known only for his collaborative effort on the popular song "Issa Goal". Outside of that one song, the artist does not have a career to speak of. The subject has not won any major awards in Nigeria. He is more known for his alleged involvement in Advance-fee scam. The subject was recently arrested by the EFCC and is currently awaiting trial. Nigeria does not have an official music chart.   Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 22:21, 20 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep There is no official Nigeria music chart but the subject's song Am I a Yahoo boy is No.4 on the official Nigeria Itunes chart and the song has over 1.4million views on Youtube. The subjects being in the news for over two weeks has made him notable.Haylad (talk) 16:21, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * we do not include instances of iTunes charts. These charts are irrelevant on wikipedia. You can read more and the guidelines here WP:CHART Ceethekreator (talk) 23:51, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 01:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:GNG. Several newspapers in Nigeria have published articles about his arrest and will likely continue to do so as the case progresses.
 * Blueprint Newspaper "Speed Darlington reacts to Zlatan, Naira Marley’s arrest"
 * Daily Champion "Naira Marley is small boy, go after looters of Nigeria’s treasury – Daddy Showkey slams EFCC"
 * Daily Post "Naira Marley: Actress, Georgina Onuoha begs EFCC, seeks arrest of corrupt politicians"
 * Daily Times of Nigeria "Alleged online fraud: EFCC to arraign Naira Marley on Monday"
 * Daily Trust "EFCC confirms arrest of 'Naira Marley'"
 * Daylight Nigeria "Why we arrested alleged yahoo singer, Naira Marley – EFCC"
 * Independent "Naira Marley Depressed, Mother Weeps As He Appears In Court Today"
 * Leadership "Court Remands Musician, Naira Marley, In Prison Custody"
 * The Nation "Naira Marley: EFCC seeks partnership with artistes against internet fraud"
 * New Telegraph "Naira Marley’ll not run away, it is bailable offence –Lawyer"
 * Osun Defender "Alleged Credit Card Fraud: EFCC Files 11 Charges Against Naira Marley"
 * P.M. News "Davido promises to free Naira Marley after EFCC arrest"
 * Premium Times "Naira Marley: Why I shot ‘Am I a Yahoo Boy’ video – TG Omori"
 * The Punch "Naira Marley risks seven years in prison –EFCC"
 * The Sun "Naira Marley to be docked today"
 * Nigerian Tribune "Naira Marley as template of a failed nation"
 * Vanguard "Fresh controversy greets Naira Marley’s incarceration as fan threatens Ruggedman, Dolapo Badmus"


 * Here are some sources from before his recent controversy:
 * Paragraph in i-D 24 March 2017
 * Complex "Premiere: Team Salut Recruit Afrowave Star Naira Marley For Wavy Banger 'Wagon'" 30 November 2017 and "Premiere: Afroswing Pioneer Naira Marley Is On A Getaway Mission In New 'JAPA' Video" 9 November 2018
 * The Fader "Yxng Bane, Belly Squad, Afro B, Naira Marley define the street sound of London in new SoundCloud doc" 1 December 2017 and Watch the new video for Naira Marley’s World Cup anthem, 'Issa Goal' 27 April 2018
 * Mixmag "Get to know Naira Marley, the Lagos via Peckham MC pioneering afrobashment" 2 March 2018
 * Clash "Naira Marley Shares Two New Songs, Adds London Show" 24 July 2018
 * The Guardian "How Naira Marley’s Issa Goal became Nigeria’s World Cup, 2018 theme song" 23 June 2018 Blumpf (talk) 04:50, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Citing numerous sources relating to his arrest doesn't make him notable. Marley fails WP:MUSICBIO. With the exception of the ID source, all of the remaining sources is about the songs "Issa Goal", "Wagon", and "Japa" and "Drummer Boy". Keep in mind that while these sources are about said songs, none of these songs pass WP:NSONG. Like I said earlier, Naira Marley is an up-and-coming artist who is now known more for his alleged involvement in 419.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 18:33, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:09, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 *  Delete: it fails WP:MUSICBIO. completly .  but however he might be notable over his  controversy.  Advance-fee scam in future, but NOT as musician at the moment  Samat lib (talk) 20:07, 4 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete: I will basing my arguments in two parts, the first being pre-fraud Marley, while the second is post-fraud Marley.


 * Starting with the first. I believe this is one of those few cases where a musical artist has contributed to a notable song, but the song didn't confer sufficient notability to the musician. I believe "Issa Goal" passes WP:NSONG, and can have its own independent article but seeing that it was a collaborative work with other artist, I do not think it makes Marley to pass WP:NMUSICIAN. As stated by other commentators, he's still fairly new in the music industry and will likely pass WP:NMUSICIAN in the future, but at the moment I'm not convinced he meets it. I've also gone through multiple sources that covers his career as a artist (pre-fraud perspective), and they don't seem to be sufficient enough for GNG either.


 * Now speaking about the second scenario, let me remind us that this is a biographical article, and if there is so much interest/coverage in his fraud case, I suggest a Naira Marley arrest or Naira Marley fraud case article that will outline the dramatic itinerary of events leading to his arrest, release and trial. Information such as his lyrical content glorifying 419, making comments in defense of 419, his beef with Simi on 419 before his arrest, notable reactions to his arrest, etc will be included in the article. While I agree that the fraud case is a notable one that will always be referenced when it comes to celebrities and advance fee scams, I do not think it should be used to keep the article. In my opinion, we'll be setting a wrong precedence to what Wikipedia biographies is meant to cover.HandsomeBoy (talk) 18:52, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It doesn't make sense to me to have an article about the case but not the musician. It's not being reported on because of unique aspects of the crime like being one of the highest value fraud cases or having a very large number of victims. It's because of the person involved.
 * Vanguard "Popular Musician Naira Marley gets N2m bail" May 30
 * The Punch "GTB, Mastercard officials, seven others to testify at Naira Marley’s trial" May 31
 * The Punch "Give us Naira Marley’s transaction history, EFCC tells Mastercard, Visa" June 1 Blumpf (talk) 03:26, 5 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. The "delete" arguments are more persuasive. There are almost no serious arguments that the person is notable as a musician; an online chart doesn't confer notability. Which leaves us with the coverage related to his legal problems, but that is a WP:BLP1E case.  Sandstein   14:39, 9 June 2019 (UTC)


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