Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nancy Apple (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Multiple sources found in the discussion which established notability. (non-admin closure) -- Dane 2007  talk 00:43, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Nancy Apple
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The article is solely referenced to a short Allmusic biography, and I am unable to find anything else. The prior deletion discussion ended with editors agreeing that this single ref is sufficient, but I can't see how it meets WP:NBIO or WP:NMUSIC. I looked at WP:RSN but I can't get a good handle of whether Allmusic is even reliable, or would be similarly insufficient to a bio referenced only to IMDb (see Citing IMDb). Given the poor reference (short paragraph in a single website of dubious reliability) I think we should revisit this. Oh, and I looked for other sources but all I see are WP:PRIMARY and mentions in passing. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:51, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note. In addition to the AllMusic material, the first AfD also pointed to an article from the The Commercial Appeal; the link given then is now dead, but the article can be found at archive.org as "Singer-songwriter Nancy Apple shines despite personal tragedy", or at HighBeam as "Singer, songwriter shines despite personal tragedy -- Apple emerges from recording hiatus and heartbreak with an upbeat CD". --Arxiloxos (talk) 06:28, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Good job tracing that, through it appears that GoMemphis is a local portal that does not even have a Wikipedia article, so it doesn't help much with establishing notability. I am afraid that for me this is not even bordeline, but a clear failure of NBIO. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:40, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * This article may ultimately not pass the Wikipedia notability test, but your description of Gomemphis.com is incorrect: it's an entertainment portal for The Commercial Appeal, Memphis' dominant newspaper, and the cited source is an article from that newspaper. So we have the Allmusic content and a substantial local newspaper article.  Four experienced editors found this to be enough to show notability in the 2012 AfD.  A HighBeam search turns up lots and lots of brief mentions of her from the same newspaper. Some additional substantial non-Memphis coverage of the subject would be especially helpful, but I haven't found much of that yet.--Arxiloxos (talk) 17:34, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Another set of sources: Country Standard Time has a substantial review of her 2001 album and briefer reviews of 3 others . --Arxiloxos (talk) 18:29, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Good finds. I'll leave it to those more versed in WP:NMUSIC if those reviews could be enough to keep her, if anyone thinks so, do explain this here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:53, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as the listed link above is still thin and, compared to everything else, there's simply no amounted substance, I'll also state the article currently has no genuine claims of significance, hence there's not a lot to say beyond that. SwisterTwister   talk  07:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Sources I respect a singer who don't self-promote on Wikipedia. so I googled her, a sample of what I found:
 * "Hooray for hip-hop, Nancy Apple and friends, Ex-Cult at Murphy's," The Commercial Appeal (which is a major, big-city daily) 2014
 * Here she is covered as providing part of the soundtrack for a 2016 movie
 * Alt Weekly Memphis Flyer 2014 Aaron James & Nancy Apple turn cultural flotsam into art,
 * "Nancy Apple is a singer and songwriter often referred to as the "Cadillac Cowgirl." Delivering songs influenced by 1950s rockabilly and country, Apple is a musician and performer who reveres the recordings of Wanda Jackson, Johnny Cash and the early rebels of rock 'n' roll, according to event organizers." 2011.  That's a sample, there's more in a news search here: .E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:12, 15 November 2016 (UTC)


 * keepE.M.Gregory (talk) 10:14, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Tennessee-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:44, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:44, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment, added women project to article talkpage so participants are notified of this afd.Coolabahapple (talk) 15:32, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:21, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Below is two more reviews from outside her hometown. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:37, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Enough sources to show her passing GNG. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:03, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.