Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nancy steinbeck


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was No consensus-- keep. AdamBiswanger1 14:31, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Nancy Steinbeck
I'm bringing this to AfD in hopes of clearing up notability. An article on this author, written in part by User:Nsteinbeck, was speedily deleted on 29 Aug. I think co-author of the critically acclaimed memoir is a claim of notability, so AfD seems a more appropriate venue. Article is currently a copyvio from the author's web site ; unsatisfactory permission to use this text was given at User_talk:Nsteinbeck. As to WP:BIO, she has written one book, which appears not to have done particularly well, although the subject of the book is quite notable. Amazon page contains reviews from Publisher's Weekly and Library Journal, but in a quick google I don't see a lot of other reliable sources discussing it. I do not have a strong opinion, but would consider this a very weak delete. If kept, of course, the article needs to be renamed and rewritten to avoid copyvio. bikeable (talk) 19:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Not sure what the consensus view is of bringing an article to AfD that is clearly a copyright violation, but there appear to be no reliable sources that would allow verifiability anyway... Valrith 21:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as copyvio. Valrith 21:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep but stubify. The book is notable, but practically nothing in the article is verifiable from reliable sources. Fan-1967 22:31, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, good point. I stub-ified it, removing the copyvio rationale for deletion.  (This does not, however, constitute a change of vote for me [yet]).   bikeable (talk) 23:38, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


 * A Google News Archive shows that there are some reliable sources available about her if necessary. . Capitalistroadster 03:42, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I give permission for Wikipedia to use the material on the Nancy Steinbeck and John Steinbeck IV sites at www.nancysteinbeck.com. Could someone please change the title name from a small "s" to a capital one in "Steinbeck"? Thanks, Nancy Steinbeck
 * The issue is that, even if we get past the copyright issues, we have no third-party Verification of most of what's there from any independent Reliable Sources, and we have pretty strict rules about that sort of thing. I have moved the article to uppercase the last name. Fan-1967 04:55, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The problem with the current article is that it reads like a blurb because that is what it is. I preferred Fan-1967's stub. The article if we have one should be based on third party sources as listed above. Capitalistroadster 19:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep Seems like the copyright issue has been fixed. Their website shows Ms. Steinbeck's numerous key-note lectures at major venues and many positive reviews of their book.
 * Keep Her book was named among the top 10 for 2001 by Writer Magazine. Notability not an issue, copyright not an issue, and it's been stub-ified.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.