Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Narco States (band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 22:23, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Narco States (band)

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Non-notable band. No indications that they meet any of the criteria for inclusion. No signs of any significant independent coverage. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

We don't believe this article should be removed under section 5 of criteria for musicians:

"Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)."

Narco States has released 2 (with number 3 in a few months time) albums with Piñata Records in Minneapolis, which has its own Wiki page, as well as fellow label mates L'Assassins and Black Diet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robblauer (talk • contribs) 13:49, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment The existence of a Wikipedia article does not make a label "more important indie labels". Piñata Records has one "notable" band in their roster and has only been in existence for five years.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:11, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

What could we change to allow the publishing of this article? More published sources of our work? Wait until our third release under Pinata? What qualifies as a "more important indie label"? If you've allowed Pinata their own page, does that not make them important? I would argue that Pinata has at least 3 notable bands by your criteria, including Narco States, Black Diet, and L'Assassins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robblauer (talk • contribs) 15:00, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   18:09, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete In reply to good faith queries above, merely proving existence does not equal notability. What is lacking here--as stated with the original nomination--is a lack of significant sources. The ones provided are blogs, user submitted sites, promotional, and first party (i.e. interviews) and, in general, small-time coverage. To save this article would require more evidence of third party coverage independent of the subject's promotional interest. If they exist, add them to the article and get rid of the current references that are only dragging the article down. If they don't exist then its a pretty good indication this band lacks encyclopedic importance. Sometimes its best to wait until a subject achieves more evidence of genuine notability before attempting an article. Best of luck in your efforts. ShelbyMarion (talk) 15:19, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Minnesota-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:12, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:00, 29 April 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 01:42, 7 May 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   12:00, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Assertion of qualifying under WP:NMUSIC#5 not persuasive as Pinata Records does not qualify as "one of the more important indie labels". Does not qualify under WP:GNG as coverage cited is either not significant, not independent, or both. Questions (from the band's presumed drummer) above also shows a common misconception: Articles cannot be made notable.  Article subjects are made notable outside of Wikipedia by the actions they perform that generate significant, independent coverage.  Wikipedia is not a tool to promote a band to notability.  Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:17, 23 May 2017 (UTC)


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