Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nargis Khatun (footballer)


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The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 02:31, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Nargis Khatun (footballer)

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Hasn't had any full international caps; fails WP:GNG also Spiderone  19:52, 11 November 2016 (UTC)


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 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 20:29, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. Joseph2302 09:49, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - She has not played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:12, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - per WP:BASIC or WP:GNG. Article could use expansion, not deletion per WP:ATD. A few sample references to start:
 * "Unrelenting passion", The Daily Star
 * "Meet our Supergirls", Dhaka Tribune
 * "Goal-happy Bangladesh thrash Kyrgyzstan", Dhaka Tribune
 * "Why Are We So Good", Bangladesh Chronicle
 * "Singapore no match for Bangladesh girls", Dhaka Tribune
 * "Bangladesh down Kyrgyzstan 10-0", The Independent

Full name is Mossamat Nargis Khatun per Metafootball, a number of more routine match coverage articles, and PFF profile. Hmlarson (talk) 22:03, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The first 2 sources are about the team in general and don't focus specifically on Nargis; the third source is just about her scoring a goal and nothing more; the fourth source doesn't mention her at all. Spiderone  18:38, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the error on #4 - I removed it. I disagree about the others. Hmlarson (talk) 05:43, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * #5 and #6 are just trivial mentions; the reason being that she is mentioned no more than twice in each article and there is nothing significant there such that we would be able to flesh out this article from it. Spiderone  10:58, 20 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep - as per as Hmlarson. Ibrahim Husain Meraj (talk) 09:37, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Delete arguments are not evidence based.  Evidence supporting WP:GNG is shown, and WP:ATD is a policy.  Unscintillating (talk) 14:52, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by not evidence based? The fact of the matter is that she has not played any senior level football. Furthermore, the sources provided have either been passing mentions or player profiles and do not amount to significant coverage to pass WP:GNG. ATD should only be considered if there is a possibility of GNG being met. For example, would you argue that I could create articles for these players given that they have player profiles on a reliable website? Spiderone  10:55, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * , For curiosity, I searched those players of Sutton United, and found that most of them already have articles. Ibrahim Husain Meraj (talk) 11:10, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * that's fair enough but those are all down to a WP:NFOOTY pass rather than an attempt at GNG. We don't have a crystal ball so, for all we know, Nargis might never make a senior appearance and fade into obscurity or she might quit football and do something else. I believe that the best solution is to delete this now and then recreate if and when she ever meets WP:NFOOTY otherwise we will just end up with a lot more of these 'she might end up being notable' type articles. Spiderone  11:18, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * For all four !votes above, the entire core deletion argument is "Fails WP:GNG". In WP:ATA, such !votes are identified as "Just pointing at a policy or guideline".  What happened to WP:BEFORE D1?  Unscintillating (talk) 15:23, 20 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as what actually applies here is the footballers notability and it's not being satisfied (as shown by the listed information), therefore considering that, delete. SwisterTwister   talk  05:00, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. There is already consensus here in a very recent AfD that this player is not notable. To review the sources noted above as supporting GNG:
 * Unrelenting Passion A couple of brief paragraphs. could be used to support GNG but needs much more from over sources to indicate significant coverage.
 * Meet our supergirls - not suitable for GNG. Essentially no discussion of the player. Three biographical facts and a 16 word quote from her coach. Essentially no coverage at all.
 * Goal-happy Bangladesh thrash Kyrgyzstan - Routine match report. Three brief mentions of the player. Not dedicated coverage and not substantial.
 * Singapore no match for Bangladesh girls - one mention of the player missing a chance of a goal in a Routine match report. Not dedicated coverage and not substantial by any stretch of the imagination.
 * Bangladesh down Kyrgyzstan 10-0 - one mention of the player scoring a goal in a Routine match report. Not dedicated coverage and not substantial by any stretch of the imagination. Fenix down (talk) 09:56, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


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