Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nargothrond


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The result was redirect to Beleriand. Tone 11:40, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Nargothrond

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No indication this fictional location passes WP:NFICTION/WP:GNG. Pure WP:PLOT. BEFORE fails to show anything that's not a mention in passing/fictional bio summary. Deprodded by User:Necrothesp with no helpful rationale. Not even going to try to argue "this is a significant location"? I am disappointed... yet another example why deprods should require a rationale, no exceptions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:42, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  10:42, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. As I said, significant location in the works of one of the most notable authors in the English language. Prodding doesn't require a rationale, and in any case I gave one. But why should it need one? Could it be because you'd like it to be easier to delete anything you don't like without discussion? Prodding is for pointless rubbish. This isn't. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:53, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fantasy-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 10:53, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


 * You'd think a significat location would merit an entry in Tolkien Encyclopedia. But that work doesn't have an entry on Nargothrond. Can you show a single source that discusses this in depth, outside plot summaries, to back up your argument? Saying WP:ITSIMPORTANT is not sufficient. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:55, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete — Many literary critics would disagree that Tolkien was "one of the most notable authors in the English language". He is certainly one of the most popular in recent decades. His popularity rests on The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. The Silmarillion never received general critical or popular acclaim. It has to be considered one of Tolkien's minor works. I see no evidence this is a "significant location". Our article on The Silmarillion doesn't even mention it.--Jack Upland (talk) 04:41, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect. Tolkien being a popular author does not mean that every topic related to him is necessary to cover. This does not currently establish notability. TTN (talk) 18:31, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Beleriand. Goustien (talk) 03:34, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I sort of plodded through the Simirilian, it is a famously unreadable book, but I have no recollection of Nargothrond. Nothing shows that this place is truly notable even within the context of that minor and never completed as a reable story, work.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails NFICTION/GNG. Pure PLOT. Necrothesp does not advance a valid AfD argument. Kacper IV (talk) 09:39, 26 November 2019 (UTC)


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