Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nastradoomus


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The discussion indicates that while it is possible to verify that the album exists, there is no evidence that it is notable. -- jonny - m t  10:16, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Nastradoomus

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No independent sources are given that would support the notability of this mixtape per WP:MUSIC. I consider the PROD contested since an IP user inserted the following text into the article: "This mixtape is notable primarily because it marries MF Doom production loved by hardcore hip-hop fans with raps from reknowned emcee Nas from what is widely considered his most disappointing album, its chief shortcoming being the beats." While this is personal comment rather than evidence of notability, it seems that someone objects the deletion. B. Wolterding (talk) 16:08, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:MUSIC. Only released via web-site and seems to be one-man-band mix tape. -- MightyWarrior (talk) 16:12, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails notability guidelines for albums; mixtapes aren't usually notable. (And one thing I don't understand about rap; how can one artist release 491,000 mixtapes?!) Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 16:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep While this is a mixtape, Wikipedia is chock full of extremely similar entries. Browse through Category:Mashup albums, Category:Bootleg albums, and Category:Remix albums, all linked at the bottom of the page. As a fan of hip-hop and numerous other genres, many of these albums/mixtapes I've never heard of, but I've known of Nastradoomus since it was first released 5 years ago. It is indeed notable because it is a blend of beats by MF Doom and raps from Nas, two notable hip-hop artists, that is cherished by each artist's fans, many whom believe this "saves" the original Nastradamus album by substituting the original music with something "better." Set aside your personal views on hip-hop music and culture; there is no logical reason to single out this compilation for deletion. 216.185.5.254 (talk) 16:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is basically what you're saying, with a dash of "I've heard of it". Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 16:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * When used correctly though, these comparisons are important as the encyclopedia should be consistent in the content that it provides or excludes. The problem arises when legitimate comparisons are disregarded without thought because "other stuff existing is not a reason to keep/create/etc." from WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. By the way, I just added several references to the Nastradoomus article to make my case even stronger. 216.185.5.254 (talk) 16:58, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Discogs, Amazon and a forum. Those are not reliable sources. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 17:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Since when? Discogs is a very reliable source and provides the most comprehensive discographies of electronic and hip-hop music on the Net. The Discogs references are sources for the tracklistings, label, and years of release, and the forum post and Amazon user comments show that fans appreciate this mixtape. If these references had been there from the beginning, this entry wouldn't be up for AfD. 216.185.5.254 (talk) 18:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 17:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * This isn't really a mixtape, as such - it's a mashup record in the mould of Danger Mouse's Grey Album, rather than just a compilation of random crap. That said, I don't see any reliable media coverage of this record from which we could build an article. Flowerparty ☀ 13:27, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.