Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natalie Ann Holt


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The result was keep. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 06:42, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Natalie Ann Holt

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An article on this subject was deleted after Articles for deletion/Natalie Holt, however having written it I can say it differed almost entirely to this. In any event, this is an unsourced BLP and perhaps, judging by the username of the creator, created with a COI. Laun chba  ller  21:33, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: If this is kept, can the previous content deleted at Natalie Holt be restored to the history of this article.-- Laun  chba  ller  14:25, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:46, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:46, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete This is still a WP:BLP1E as far as Wikipedia is concerned, regardless of whether the subject (whom I assume wrote this) feels otherwise and is trying to capitalize on those 15 minutes of "fame". There's already a redirect to the Raven quartet article, so I wouldn't even recommend redirecting this one. It should have probably been deleted as a G4 since it does not improve over the previously AFDed version. § FreeRangeFrog croak 00:08, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't G4 it because, having written the deleted version, I know this version had nothing to do with the previous version.-- Laun  chba  ller  13:22, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep I have added to the article the fact that she won an Ivor Novello Award. That was announced only last week so the information wasn't available earlier. I believe that is a significant enough award to qualify her as notable. I have removed the "unsourced BLP" tag. It should be noted that this article is totally unlike the previous, deleted one. There is no BLP1E aspect to the current article; in fact it does not even mention the egging incident, although it probably should, for example . --MelanieN (talk) 18:58, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't know that, and that's why I AfDd rather than G4d., please reconsider your vote.-- Laun  chba  ller  19:40, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Honestly I don't think that's enough to meet GNG because the coverage is essentially non-existent; a passing mention on that one ref is not enough, IMO. § FreeRangeFrog croak 21:16, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I was thinking that this award might qualify her per WP:ANYBIO, where it says "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times." Of course, opinions can differ over whether this is a sufficiently "well-known and significant award" to meet ANYBIO. --MelanieN (talk) 21:30, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * If not, we can always simply redirect to RaVen Quartet and work from there.-- Laun  chba  ller  11:07, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 06:52, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. As written, I am not seeing enough to pass WP:BIO. At best, it's WP:ONEVENT.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:36, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - meets notability based on winning the Ivor Novello award. Article needs to be checked for COI, I'm guessing it is an autobiography as it's largely unsourced. I removed the list of people she's worked with etc. —Мандичка YO 😜 11:26, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep: On the basis of the article I just read, her work as a composer passes the bar. The rest of the article does read a bit too much like a CV. Much of the personal material can be handled in a single sentence ("a conservatory trained violinist, she played with the ___ before working as a composer"). I know that that doesn't feel good to a person whose life is being represented, but, from the cold eye of these pages, it's kind of the point. Hithladaeus (talk) 13:56, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep' - Ahhh she was the woman who started throwing eggs at Simon Cowell ...... Ah egg-streme but also egg-citing, Anyway she won Ivor Novello so thus is notable. – Davey 2010 Talk 16:02, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes WP:ANYBIO. Kraxler (talk) 19:21, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


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