Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nathan Adam Morley


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 01:07, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Nathan Adam Morley

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Subject does not appear to meet any Wikipedia notability guidelines (WP:GNG, WP:NBOXING), nor do appropriate sources seem to exist for any of the content. Despite claims of a 20-fight pro career and being a two-time Golden Gloves champion, the subject does not seem to have a BoxRec profile, and is not included on any of the lists of National Golden Gloves champions. Dancter (talk) 06:40, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. GSS  (talk |c|em ) 06:53, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Boxing-related deletion discussions. GSS  (talk |c|em ) 06:53, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions. GSS  (talk |c|em ) 06:53, 30 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete As per nominator. Would have Prod'd this as an unsourced BLP but we are here now.PRehse (talk) 09:11, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - Added secondary reliable source reference confirming that he did win the Golden Gloves, .  As such, claims to notability are confirmed. ShoesssS Talk 15:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:MIRROR: That source is pretty much a mirror of the List of US national Golden Gloves middleweight champions Wikipedia article from 2013/2014. Dancter (talk) 16:05, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Still a list of Golden Glove That has been verified from a secondary source. (Let's play fair here :-) do not remove references based on personal opinion. ShoesssS Talk 17:14, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * And does nothing toward showing either WP:GNG or WP:NBOX.PRehse (talk) 17:17, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * By mirror, I don't just mean that it shares the same content. I mean it literally copied wholesale from that Wikipedia article version, errors and all, with no apparent editorial intervention, in the manner described at WP:MIRROR, which states: "Copies of Wikipedia are not reliable sources." Thus I do not consider that list to be "verified from a secondary source." I considered the copying to be pretty blatant, but since you seem to consider it to be a disputable "personal opinion," I'll just tag it for others to assess. Dancter (talk) 17:48, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * It's one of the "World Heritage" known mirrors. They identify Wikipedia as their source in the "Citational Source" link at the bottom of the article. I've removed it. Kuru   (talk)  01:13, 31 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. Frankly, this looks like a hoax. The "reference" given was an old mirror of List of US national Golden Gloves middleweight champions, which was modified in 2008 by an IP editor to add the names. This same IP also edited this article, right after it was created by the single-purpose account. That same account modified other articles with details on the subject, often mixing up the dates and details of his "accomplishments."  It looks like Dancter has fixed the GG list with actual reliable sources. Since this article has sat here for a decade, we need to be meticulous in this WP:BLP to avoid placement on this list. I didn't see anything reliable.  Kuru   (talk)  01:36, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I have to agree that it looks like a hoax. The claim of a successful pro boxing career is unsupported and, in fact, boxrec.com has no listing for a fighter with this name.  In addition, he wasn't listed as a Golden Gloves champion at the Golden Gloves website . Papaursa (talk) 19:32, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - changed from keep based on the education I received from  Kuru  and Dancter.  Got to admit it does look like a hoax.  Thanks for your patience. ShoesssS Talk 19:46, 31 March 2018 (UTC)


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