Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nathan Helmut Carriage


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The result was delete (expired BLP-PROD). (non-admin closure) Electric Catfish 14:42, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Nathan Helmut Carriage

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I don't know if this person meets WP: A7, or WP: GNG at all. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 12:19, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I just tagged it for A7. The subject does not appear to meet any notability criteria whatsoever, wholly lacks refs, and even seems a bit like a hoax. --IShadowed 12:31, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * An admin removed your A7 tags. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 14:03, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * If you don't know, why did you nominate it for deletion? You've basically expressed no rationale for deletion, there.  Nominate things at AFD after doing the research to determine whether something satisfies the notability criteria, so that you do know. Uncle G (talk) 16:48, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
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 * I agree with Uncle G: why was this taken to AfD a full 2 minutes after creation?? By a new editor on top of that (ever heard of WP:BITE?) At the most, this could have been tagged with WP:BLPPROD given the lack of references. And who knows, perhaps that this new editor would have come up with some reliable sources establishing notability. Creating AfDs like this is wasting everybody's time. At this point, I'm not going to !vote, because it is not possible that in those 2 minutes you searched for sources yourself, as requested in WP:BEFORE. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 19:46, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. I am sympathetic to the article's creator, and agree wholeheartedly that newbies should not be bitten.  Googling "Nathan Helmut Carriage" returns precisely two entries, both to Wikipedia pages.  "Nathan Carriage" is more productive of results but none seem relevant.  A search for his aboriginal name revealed many references to emus but none to Mr. Carriage that I could find.  I am not sure what is the best standard against which to measure this article -- WP:MUSIC, WP:PROF, etc. -- but I can find nothing to indicate that he meets WP:GNG.  Given the nature of the subject matter, I'm willing to believe that there are print sources not available on the internet and I encourage any interested party, including the article's creator, to provide them.  (I don't live in Australia but I'd be looking for local newspaper coverage.) Ubelowme (talk) 21:43, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment No, I did not bite him. I was trying to avoid biting him because while I could've CSD tagged it, I decided that it might be conteversial, so I decided to get a 2nd opinion here. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 22:07, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, why does it take more than 2 minutes to Google the subject? Electriccatfish2 (talk) 22:08, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * And yes, I am very farmiliar with the deletion policies here, but I decided that this was borderline, so I took it here to get other editor's opinions. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 22:10, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Agree with Uncle G and Guillaume2303, taking this article to AfD 2 minutes after creation sounds a little improper. Cavarrone (talk) 06:44, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: I can't find any independent information on this person, plus the phrase "harsh terrain of Canberra" gives off a hoaxy vibe. ...  disco spinster   talk  13:59, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Close -- let BLPPROD run its course and then renominate after research about notability has been carried out. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 17:59, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
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