Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nathan Winder


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The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 00:56, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Nathan Winder

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Another person who technically meets WP:NFOOTBALL because he made a one minute cameo in the old Third Division for Halifax and then faded into complete obscurity after. He does have some coverage post-retirement as he was recently appointed fitness coach at Ipswich. Being a fitness coach at a notable club doesn't make you notable, though, and I don't think the sourcing is enough for WP:GNG. I don't think that Winder warrants a stand-alone article but I'm happy to leave this to the community, hence AfD. Other sources    Spiderone  17:55, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete - agree that failing GNG comprehensively is more important than scraping by on NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 19:24, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. More marginal than the Mansfield players nominated because of his subsequent career, but still not notable by Wikipedia standards.  A single-subject Fandom site could have him, definitely.  RobinCarmody (talk) 23:59, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep It's better to have a complete set of articles here for WP:NFOOTBALL than maintain a complete set on another site and a separate incomplete set here. Subject-specific guidelines are more important than WP:GNG as a reason to delete an article, there's no reason to say they shouldn't be as a reason to keep an article. Peter James (talk) 17:00, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * At the very top of WP:NFOOTBALL, it says This guideline is used to help evaluate whether or not a sports person or sports league/organization (amateur or professional) is likely to meet the general notability guideline, and thus merit an article in Wikipedia. NFOOTBALL is merely a guideline to help us decide whether something will pass WP:GNG. If someone comprehensively fails GNG, it's fair to say that scraping by on NFOOTBALL is insufficient. Winder is an amateur footballer who just so happened to play one minute (one minute!) of a game between two professional teams. Spiderone  18:58, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 00:26, 8 December 2020 (UTC)


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