Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Audio Theatre Festival


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The result was keep. Daniel (talk) 00:21, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

National Audio Theatre Festival

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Does not meet WP:GNG. The book currently being referenced as far as I can tell is only being referenced because it won an award from NATF. That leaves the Richard Fish sources, who from what I can tell has been a part of NATF almost every year but I can't tell if he worked at or just attended the events. Regardless I would question whether he is truly independent of the subject. It's also worth noting that "multiple sources are generally expected" and that "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability." So even if Richard Fish is independent of the subject it would generally be expected that there are other sources out there, and so far I have been unable to find other independent and reliable secondary sources that have more than a trivial mention. If someone has access to newspapers.com they might find some non-digital sources that I'm unaware of. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:03, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:03, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep. As you suspected, the good stuff is hidden away in old newspapers. I found a few sources in ProQuest which I think constitute a pass for WP:GNG:
 * "All Ears and Imagination / Resurgence of radio plays is sweet sound to Hempstead couple" by Peter Goodman in Newsday, 24 September 2002. 818 words discussing the event, its organizers, and a bit about its history. Mentions a festival grant from the NEH for $10,000, and that the NATF has more than 200 members.
 * "This weekend's audio theater workshops offers the chance to see radio performers in action" by Ray Routhier in Portland Press Herald, 3 November 2002. 1991 words, a little bit promotional at the start (eg where the event is & how much it costs) but then goes into more detail about the event, how it was founded, and its ambitions for the future of radio theatre.
 * "Drama for the Ear and the Imagination" by David Cote in the New York Times, 17 August 2003. A 2163-word article about radio theatre, of which 321 words (three consecutive paragaphs) discuss NATF.
 * I'm not finding much more than these (though searching for MRTW would probably turn up more), but I think they show sufficient coverage for basic notability. They're all original reporting and non-trivial coverage, which do more than simply promote an event. It's not incredible stuff but I think a decent article could be written from it. ~ L 🌸  (talk) 09:26, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:21, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:GNG per L's argument. SBKSPP (talk) 06:23, 17 July 2021 (UTC)


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