Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Express West Midlands Fleet


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 20:11, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

National Express West Midlands Fleet

 * – ( View AfD View log  •  )

Contested prod. Wikipedia is not a directory or a website for a hobby. This lacks any significant coverage in reliable sources and falls well short of WP:GNG Nuttah (talk) 19:40, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge Details of the current fleet, and perhaps an overview of the past vehicles, can easily be merged into National Express West Midlands.  Aiken   &#9835;   19:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:07, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Cut down slightly This page is useful for knowing what the figures are with the current fleet and the latest vehicle updates. Do NOT think it should be deleted. Even though there are not many references, plainly by looking on the internet there is very little information as regards to the information on here and this is evidently the reason as to why there is a lack of references. It's clear that the users who edit this article are genuine and do actually work for the company/have contact with people who work for NXWM, as the data has yet to prove questionable and has always been correct to my knowledge. Zukeylukey (talk) 22:58, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Comment -- This is a page for bus spotting nerds. It seems to be comprehensive; indeed perhaps too comprehensive.  Merging it back to National Express West Midlands is hardly an option, due to its size, though the section there to which it is a main article is curretly far too brief.  The two potential problems are whether this is WP:OR; and whether it will be maintained.  The composition of a bus company's fleet will inevitably change over time, so that if not regularly maintained, it will go out of date.  I commonly vote against keeping articles on bus routes, becasue they will go out of date: bus company sites will be maintained by them; WP will not.  Much the same problem arises here.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:20, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - the worst case of bus-spotting I have seen. No place for this sort of unreferenced trivia on Wikipedia. I suggest (seriously) that the authors of this article go over to Wikia where they can fiddle with minutiae-filled articles about buses to their hearts content. This might be a good start - http://uktransport.wikia.com/wiki/Buses --Simple Bob (talk) 15:28, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Way too much detail for Wikipedia. All we need is an overview of the fleet on the main article. Not a list of every single bus they run. Can we stop the stereotypical comments of bus spotters please as well. Arriva436talk/contribs 22:09, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Condense -- I found this article on Google when I was in correspondence with National Express West Midlands regarding our local (appalling) bus service, and was able to copy fleet allocation details to Excel to produce figures that supported my case for better buses in my area. The National Express West Midlands website is of no use whatsoever as it is always out of date - the current fleetlist is correct to February 2009, while timetables are still provided for routes that were withdrawn weeks ago.  Therefore, a site like this, which seems to be maintained meticulously by employees of the company, is invaluable as a source of useful information for people like myself who needed to do research to support my case at a meeting with the company.  I agree with Arriva436 that there seems to be stereotypical comments from some of the correspondents, whose sole reason for demanding its deletion appear to be a dislike of anoraks.  However, I think some of the detail is overlong and unnecessary, and a good prune would provide a stronger page. 17:20, 10 August 2010 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.213.31.6 (talk)
 * Delete. Not independently notable, and much too detailed. The summary is quite useful and has a place on the company's article, but none in a separate one. As an aside, some of the delete comments about bus spotters are over the top. Alzarian16 (talk) 11:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Condense and update: Some of the detail is too much but this is the best place on the internet to get this information.