Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Express West Midlands route 451


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 22:27, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

National Express West Midlands route 451

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This is a seemingly non notable bus route which I have already once redirected to List of bus routes in the West Midlands county after attempting to establish a consensus on WP:UKBRQDRIVE. The ideal outcome would not be delete, but to redirect again, as above. There is no encyclopaedic content I can see that would warrant keeping, and I can find no reliable sources to establish notability. Jenuk1985 |  Talk  22:09, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep as the nominator does not want the article deleted. Stifle (talk) 22:19, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment the nominator does want the article deleted. originally I added prod templates to these, but were redirected at the request of an administrator. Jenuk1985  |  Talk  22:23, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I added the remark about ideal outcome being redirect because it is the same as other articles in the same batch that I "prodded". Personally I feel deletion for these articles is best, as the redirects serve no useful purpose. Jenuk1985  |  Talk  22:38, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment I removed the prod tags from these (or asked for their removal) because it seemed clear that even if not a viable article, that either redirection of merging were a suitable alternative to deletion. Myself, I think we should could consider all scheduled bus routes as notable, as major means of public transportation of importance to the communities. They change, but not too much to be maintainable.  However, I'm not all that certain they're worth the trouble.  DGG (talk) 02:22, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. No evidence of notability; seems to be an unlikely search term to me. JulesH (talk) 12:58, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Der Wohltempierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 02:11, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete or redirect as proposed. There is no point in keeping it. Not all scheduled bus routes are notable. Miami33139 (talk) 02:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Looking at other bus route articles over the last few days, I think they all could be considered as notable & if people want to go to the trouble, there's no reason not to have them, except that as a matter of style they might be better merged. That can be discussed on the talk pages or the project page and consensus reached there. DGG (talk) 04:32, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.