Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/National Fitness Hall of Fame


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Nomination was withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) J bh  Talk  21:44, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

National Fitness Hall of Fame

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This company or organization does not seem to meet our notability requirments for a non-profit organization (see WP:NCORP).

It has not received any significant mainstream coverage. While there do apear to have been numerous mentions of this subject (e.g. briefly noting that certain celebrities have been awarded honors by this organization), there does not seem to be a single article or source which has covered this subject in any depth. --Salimfadhley (talk) 01:34, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep No compliance with WP:Before. Ipse dixit?  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 18:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you clarify which aspect of this AFD is not in compliance? --Salimfadhley (talk) 20:15, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * there are sources out there. Now you have shifted the burden.  Cart before the horse.  Shoot first, ask questions later?  We will now spin our wheels over something that should not have happened in the first place.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 21:43, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question. I had searched through news articles and I was unable to find any substantial coverage of this topic in any mainstream media. I did find a number of brief mentions (e.g. notes that a particular person was a member of the hall of fame), but nothing approaching substantial coverage. We can end this AFD now if you know of such a source. --Salimfadhley (talk) 22:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm looking. I hope User:Dr. Blofeld is looking, as he seems to have sources I don't.  Very resourceful... that one.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 22:19, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed, if you click on the line Find sources above, you will find scores of articles and books which note the National Fitness Hall of Fame including a great many books.  A lot of this centers on induction of members (or in the case of Arnold S, a proposed revocation).  As I said, this is all displayed when you propose a deletion.  And the President has spoken there. We can slog and winnow, but Z am confident it is there to survive any challenge to notability.  You can dislike what they do, but to dismiss it as a "marketing/promotional service" is unfair. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎</b>) 22:35, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did find a number of mentions of this subject (of the kind that you and I both previously observed), however I was unable to find any single Reliable Source which covers this subject with any significant depth. It's not really a case of me not liking the links or the subject, more a case of being unable to find one suitable source which covers this subject in any depth. It simply doesn't seem to have been in the news, or the subject of any kind of cultural analysis. No need to fight it out, just point me to a single link that establishes the kernel of this subject's notability. Even better, give me two links! --Salimfadhley (talk) 00:22, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Here is a clip file that includes stories about the Hall of Fame as being more than just a collection of objects and also being the locus of activities and honors. This are in The Addison Independent, The New York Times (March 17 2011), and The MidWeek (April 27, 2005) p.20, among others.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 00:37, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Lots of brief mentions, no article seems to be significantly about this subject. This is consistent with what I have previously seen when I searched the news articles. I do stand corrected regarding the museum - yes it seems that they did (at some time) have a permanent exhibition. --Salimfadhley (talk) 01:34, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Keep A number of hits in google books .♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:37, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Withdraw - new sources have been found. The article has been substantially improved. --Salimfadhley (talk) 17:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


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